Is "Playgirl Magazine" really for women, or are gay men really the main audience?

Personally I’m a Brush Creek Media man. :wink:

Nope. My lesbian friends like On Our Backs. To hear tell, it features a wider variety of women than Playboy so it has something for women who like butch or femme girls. Playboy only has femmes.

And yes, gay male porn is much hotter than straight.

When we turned 18 a few years ago, my friend and I went out and bought an issue of “Playgirl.” We came to the conclusion that it was aimed mainly at gay men because of the nature of the ads. Nothing came right out and said that it was target towards gay men, but all of the ads for phone sex numbers and “dating services” implied it in their text.

I don’t have that magazine anymore so of course I can’t back my claim up.

Hmm, things have changed, and it has been sevral years since I looked at one. With the Internet, there’s no need to buy magazines.

I don’t think I’ve ever even heard of a lesbian or bisexual woman who bought Playboy for her own erotic enjoyment. There must be some teenagers who don’t have access to any porn but what they can sneak from dad/brother’s collection, but for the most part lesbian/bi women are not interested in pornography produced for the straight male market even if it features “hot girl-on-girl action”. Well, they may be interested in protesting it, or just laughing at it, but that’s not quite the same thing.

There are some by-and-for-women-who-like-women porn mags and videos, and a somewhat larger selection of purely written material.

Related to racinchikki’s post:
This comes from several years ago, but I used to have a stack of Playgirls (and various and sundry gay male porn mags) inherited from a friend whose ex-boyfriend put together the phone sex ads on the back cover. The photographs of the models were, IIRC, interchangeable between Playgirl and the gay male mags like Men (which with Freshmen is like the equivalent of Playgirl/Playboy in their tameness), Inches, Honcho, or some others I can’t remember at the moment. But things could have changed since then.

As far as Playgirl goes, IMO it’s just so much cheese. I liked some of the erotica, but the photographs really did next to nothing for me. My favorite part is still the amateur page, where people send in real-life photos of their husbands/boyfriends/etc; and if I’m not mistaken, that was how Ron Jeremy was “discovered.”

<spoken like Homer Simpson staring at a donut>mmmm twinkies mmm</homer> :stuck_out_tongue:

Different strokes … (and yes…yes it is intentional :smiley: )

Now that that vision is over, HWMBO has a copy or two of Playgirl and I’ve seen a copy or two at friend’s houses. Bulk of HWMBO’s magazines are the Freshmen, Inches variety with Freshmen being the most (revisit the above paragraph). I haven’t seen any of the raunchy kind gobear mentions. Then, too, a friend of ours passed away and we received a box of magazines marked “private”. Maybe I need to spend some time getting to the 'bottom" of things in there.

I’m gathering you’re not interested in writing for them again in the future …
:smiley:

While they were not the intended audience, most subscribers to playgirl have always been gay men. At it’s highest point the number of female readers may have been as high as 40 percent, but this is disputed. Only the Online version is still extant and they claim 23 percent female registration, but this is believed to be exaggerated as many men may use women’s names to register.

Some have pointed out that it doesn’t seem designed for men’s sensibilities, well it wasn’t, but that is beside the point. And effeminate gay men seem to find it just fine.

You’d better have a good story you naughty pigeon. It took you 9 years to come home to roost.

My (female) cousin lived in San Francisco when Playgirl was launched. She said that she only saw men buying copies.

Back then (1973), of course, there was no World Wide Web, and no really tasteful gay pin-up magazines. Most gay porn was difficult to find. Playgirl was sold in far more outlets and you could pick up a copy off the shelf instead of going to a dirty bookstore. You could even pretend you were getting it for your girlfriend (since it certainly gave the impression it was for women).
So the magazine had it both ways: It could be portraying women’s fantasy men, or gay men’s fantasy men.

Was Levi Johnston in that state when he appeared in “Playgirl” a while back?

What kind of question is that? If people do it, someone’s photographed it.

When I was in college, I worked in a restaurant with a straight man who shared a house with a very butch lesbian roommate, and one evening, he asked me if women ever got together to watch porn. I replied that while I had never done that, I’m sure there are women who do (and not as a joke) and sure enough, he had come home the previous evening to find this roommate and some of her friends watching a lesbian porno movie. He had no idea any such thing even existed, and no, I’m not talking about that girl-girl stuff a lot of guys really like. :dubious:

One of my female friends said she and some of her other friends rented a porno movie one time, and watched it on fast forward as a joke. :stuck_out_tongue:

Has anyone here ever seen the movie “The Kids Are All Right”? In short, it’s about a lesbian couple who each had a child with the same sperm donor; the kids are now teenagers, and the son was snooping in their bedroom and found their porn stash. The next day, he asks them, “Why do you two watch gay-man porn?”

:confused:

Hey, human sexuality is a complex thing.

The men in said porno movie had hair and (for a short time) clothing styles from the early 1980s.

Perhaps, but that was some years after the thread was started.

No, he didn’t even do a frontal shot.

I think it was back around 2004 they featured their first openly gay man. Most of their models seemed to be gay porn actors.

Oops. I hadn’t even paid any attention to the dates.

^This mag is what I thought of when reading gobear’s post. Being a gym rat, I’ve read most all the fitness mags and Men’s Fitness is clearly gay porn (or was when I last sampled an issue), but it’s nothing like what gb said. Mostly soft-focus shots if skinny teens/20-somethings with no body hair in skimpy workout wear, and most tellingly no busty female columnist with a soft science degree offering dating advice.

A while back, I was at a flea market, and one of the vendors had a bunch of “physical fitness” magazines from the 1930s. It was SO obvious that this magazine was intended for gay male readers and really wasn’t about fitness at all.

It wasn’t “Physical Culture”; I’m familiar with that magazine, having discovered it as a kid. There was a stack of them in my grandmother’s garage, and in retrospect, I can’t believe my parents let me read them. However, there is clean nudity and dirty nudity, and this magazine, which had its heyday in the 1920s and 1930s, was definitely the former, and yes, it did feature full nudity, both male and female. It definitely piqued my still-ongoing interest in medical history, and if it had been “Physical Culture”, I would have purchased them because I’ve never seen actual copies of that magazine anywhere else.