# Is pledge anti-American? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 17, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pledge-anti-american/175808 "2003-05-17T01:04:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pledge-anti-american/175808/281 "2003-06-09T15:34:34Z")
Hey blue22, I understand. The thread seems to have gone through a quantum division. The version you’re hoping to read is now in another timeline. Sorry. As for the OP though, I don’t think the pledge is anti-American, but neither is refusing to recite it. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pledge-anti-american/175808/282 "2003-06-09T15:36:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\*So, “God” is just another word for quantum vacuum fluctuation, then? \*\* Now that’s a definition I can accept. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pledge-anti-american/175808/283 "2003-06-09T16:12:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milum \* > \*\*Well, Mister Photopat, that something you see is God, or The Creator, or the First Cause, or whatever you would like to call the process that brought forth something from nothing. \*\* No, **Milum** , that’s what _you_ call it. You’ve told me before that calling it “God” is part of the “rules”. You’ve failed to explain whose rules - because they certainly ain’t mine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pledge-anti-american/175808.md?page=14)