# Is power an aphrodisiac?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 2, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643 "2018-04-02T15:22:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/1 "2018-04-02T15:22:33Z")

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Looking online for the source of the well known quote, I actually found two:  
Napolean Bonaparte: “[Women] belong to the highest bidder. Power is what they like - it is the greatest of all aphrodisiacs.”  
Henry Kissinger (seems to have uttered two similar statements): “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac”, and “Power is the great aphrodisiac”.  
But the metoo movement paints a different picture. Unless those getting called out had women lineing up, but got greedy or stopped trying to discern who was willing and who wasn’t. So how much truth is there to these quotes?  
One example: I got the impression Al Franken did not have women lineing up, and it even seems he was even struggling to get a second conversation here:

> **['Creepy Behavior!' Second Woman Accuses Al Franken Of Harassment](https://radaronline.com/videos/former-radio-host-melanie-morgan-claims-al-franken-harassed-her/)**
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> A second accuser has come forward, charging Sen. Al Franken with harassment, RadarOnline.com has learned.

Yet he was a U.S. Senator, which is on the high end of the power spectrum.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/2 "2018-04-02T16:01:48Z")

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True for all social primates, and we are social primates. That doesn’t mean it trumps everything else (no pun intended), but it’s definitely there and well documented.

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Peebles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jim\_Peebles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_Peebles)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/3 "2018-04-02T16:23:30Z")

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I just noticed Al Franken became a Senator after the incident I provided a link about occured. But perhaps he was already “lofty” in Hollywood.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/4 "2018-04-02T18:05:56Z")

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A man with real or perceived power turns me off. I hate the arrogant, God’s gift type of man. Give me a hard working, humble, loves his Mother type guy.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/5 "2018-04-02T20:05:23Z")

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One could look at [Henry Kissinger’s dating profile](http://www.whosdatedwho.com/dating/henry-kissinger).

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> Henry Kissinger has been in relationships with Samantha Eggar (1972 - 1973), Jill St. John (1970 - 1973), Joanna Barnes (1970), Candice Bergen (1970), Marlo Thomas, Barbara Walters and Gina Lollobrigida.

True, a lot of that was tabloid stuff (although his relationship with Jill St. John actually went on for awhile) but he ended up marrying a woman who was 3" taller than him, which counts for something.

See also[Linda Rondstadt and Jerry Brown](https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Magazine-Linda-Ronstadt-Jerry-Brown-Sylvester-Stallone-Zevon-May-16-1978-/381261992002), or [Dennis and Elizabeth Kucinich](http://www.zimbio.com/Hottest+Politicians'+Wives+and+Girlfriends/articles/pt-Q2OKAtpO/Elizabeth+Kucinich). These guys were scoring WAY out of their league, and it wasn’t because they were rich.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/6 "2018-04-02T20:10:46Z")

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If I had the choice between power and [drinking baby mice](https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=DI7CWsjAIJKSjwT07Ya4Ag&q=baby+mice+wine), I’d choose power.

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/7 "2018-04-03T22:53:07Z")

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Power really is an aphrodisiac, but aphrodisiacs stimulate desire in the person who takes them - they don’t make him more attractive, just more horny.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/8 "2018-04-03T23:06:15Z")

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> [@Jim\_Peebles](#):
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> Looking online for the source of the well known quote, I actually found two:  
> Napolean Bonaparte: “[Women] belong to the highest bidder. Power is what they like - it is the greatest of all aphrodisiacs.”  
> Henry Kissinger (seems to have uttered two similar statements): “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac”, and “Power is the great aphrodisiac”.  
> But the metoo movement paints a different picture. Unless those getting called out had women lineing up, but got greedy or stopped trying to discern who was willing and who wasn’t. So how much truth is there to these quotes?  
> One example: I got the impression Al Franken did not have women lineing up, and it even seems he was even struggling to get a second conversation here:  
> [Former Radio Host Melanie Morgan Claims Al Franken Harassed Her](https://radaronline.com/videos/former-radio-host-melanie-morgan-claims-al-franken-harassed-her/)  
> Yet he was a U.S. Senator, which is on the high end of the power spectrum.

There is nothing contradictory about these two things…

It is a fact that men in positions of power (particularly in industries that society considers aspirational for young attractive women, e.g. movies), are more attractive to some women in ways they would not be, if they were not in those positions of power.

There is nothing inherently abusive about this EXCEPT that many many men in those take this fact to mean they are entitled to sex from whoever they want. And this means they can use their power (or just plain physical force) to coerce women into sex and otherwise abuse them.

Former fact does not somehow excuse the latter one, or some how make it the fault of the women involved.

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**Author:** ![johnod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@johnod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnod)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/9 "2018-04-04T03:36:52Z")

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Of course it is.  
And money is power.  
You think Trump, movie stars , sports stars, etc, end up with “super models” because they’re just so fascinating?

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/10 "2018-04-04T04:32:24Z")

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I may have seriously misunderstood the whole thread. Or something.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/11 "2018-04-04T16:05:26Z")

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> [@DavidwithanR](#):
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> Power really is an aphrodisiac, but aphrodisiacs stimulate desire in the person who takes them - they don’t make him more attractive, just more horny.

Get the point your making (though I don’t necessarily agree, I think the guy washing the floors is no more or less horny than the CEO )

But I think the meaning of.the term aphrodisiac may have changed over the years. In Napoleons time it meant a love potion, rather than something that would make the taker physically aroused.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-power-an-aphrodisiac/811643/12 "2018-04-07T21:49:53Z")

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Well, yes. Powerful men are more attractive to women than non-powerful men, all other things being equal.  
I suspect that powerful women may NOT be any more attractive to men than non-powerful women, and in fact may be less attractive because of such.
