# Is Prince William's marriage a sham? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 11, 2014, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840 "2014-07-11T10:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Suicide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Suicide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suicide)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/1 "2014-07-11T10:51:55Z")
In general, do the British public believe that the Prince William-Kate Middleton marriage is a real marriage or do they know that it is really a sham marriage perpetrated in order continue the royal line of succession? William’s father, Prince Charles, famously once said that, “I will not be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress” when he was married to Dianne and banging Camilla. Unless we believe that William chooses to be the first POW in history not to have a mistress, and looking at the history of England that’s not likely, then we know his marriage is a scam too, so I think the Brits must have figured this out too. no?:smack::smack::smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/2 "2014-07-11T10:57:25Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > it is really a sham marriage perpetrated in order continue the royal line of succession? …Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Suicide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Suicide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suicide)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/3 "2014-07-11T11:00:44Z")
see the rest of the statement ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/4 "2014-07-11T11:02:46Z")
They’ve been together since they were young undergraduates, and lived together for years before their marriage. Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/5 "2014-07-11T11:03:30Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > see the rest of the statement Unless you accidentally clicked “Submit” after typing only the first half of your statement, then you wrote nothing that supports your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/6 "2014-07-11T11:04:35Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > see the rest of the statement Your post is your cite? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/7 "2014-07-11T11:15:57Z")
It is a well-known fact that Kate is only seen in public at photo ops. The rest of the time I keep her in my basement. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/8 "2014-07-11T11:18:50Z")
If Charles said that, he was incorrect. King George V (Prince of Wales from 1901 to 1910) is not believed to have had a mistress. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/9 "2014-07-11T11:19:45Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > It is a well-known fact that Kate is only seen in public at photo ops. The rest of the time I keep her in my basement. “It continues the royal line of succession, or else it gets the hose again!” ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/10 "2014-07-11T11:29:39Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > see the rest of the statement [Huffington Post: Kate Middleton’s Vanity Fair Cover Is A Chic, Family Affair](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/07/08/kate-middleton-vanity-fair_n_5566763.html) Incest. Thanks for the head’s up, Suicide. I never would have suspected. ---
**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/11 "2014-07-11T11:42:21Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > …do the British public believe that the Prince William-Kate Middleton marriage is a real marriage or do they know that it is really a sham marriage perpetrated in order continue the royal line of succession? Because real marriages never produce children? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/12 "2014-07-11T11:50:18Z")
> [@APB](#): > > Because real marriages never produce children? That depends on whether it’s a _legitimate_ marriage. ---
**Author:** ![Suicide](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Suicide](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suicide)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/13 "2014-07-11T11:59:42Z")
folks, get real…the queen of england and prince philip sleep in separate bedrooms ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/14 "2014-07-11T12:00:24Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > William’s father, Prince Charles, famously once said that, **“I will not be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress”** when he was married to Dianne and banging Camilla. I read the above bolded Prince Charles quote, several times over, thinking “Even for a guy who has a history of coming out with strange things – that’s highly convoluted.” A bit of Googling led me to a more understandable and, I suspect, more accurate version: “Do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress?” > [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > If Charles said that, he was incorrect. King George V (Prince of Wales from 1901 to 1910) is not believed to have had a mistress. Charles’s words might be interpreted as not contradicting the belief about George V’s virtuous conduct: i.e. with the sense “You can’t hold the notion that I’m the first POW in history not to have a mistress – because I’m not. Great-Grandad didn’t have one, so yah boo sucks…” (Admittedly, a bit of a stretch.) ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/15 "2014-07-11T12:03:15Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > folks, get real…the queen of england and prince philip sleep in separate bedrooms Well, yeah. They’re not _poor_ people. (Seriously, the idea that every couple should _literally_ sleep together every day no matter their ability to do otherwise is fairly recent.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/16 "2014-07-11T12:06:21Z")
> [@Suicide](#): > > folks, get real…the queen of england and prince philip sleep in separate bedrooms Please do share with us your theories on who you think the 88-year-old Queen and 93-year-old Prince Consort are boning on the side, such that their sleeping in separate rooms would mean anything. Or better yet, don’t. (Oh, and for the record, Elizabeth and Philip have known each other since she was 8 years old and became romantically involved eight years before they married.) ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/17 "2014-07-11T12:15:28Z")
Ignore the Troll ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/18 "2014-07-11T12:18:00Z")
It’s a little-known fact that Prince William is gay and Kate Middleton a post-op transgender. I read it on the Internet, so it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/19 "2014-07-11T12:19:47Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > It’s a little-known fact that Prince William is gay and Kate Middleton a post-op transgender. I read it on the Internet, so it must be true. However, the rumor that Prince George is actually the child of a low-income couple that Wills and Kate had kidnapped, set loose in the wilds of Balmoral, and then hunted for sport is completely untrue. They were actually fairly middle-class. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840/20 "2014-07-11T12:26:30Z")
One plus thing that I don’t think should go unremarked is that the OP has made much better use of capitalisation and punctuation. Every cloud has a silver lining. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-prince-williams-marriage-a-sham/692840.md?page=2)