# Is Quantum Physics Proof of God?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 10, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-quantum-physics-proof-of-god/950490 "2021-09-10T21:47:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-quantum-physics-proof-of-god/950490/141 "2021-09-28T21:23:54Z")

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OK so I can imagine a bunch of star trek fan-fic in which Yar doesn’t die, but that doesn’t make it canon.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-quantum-physics-proof-of-god/950490/142 "2021-09-28T22:31:23Z")

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Yeah I think you’ve got this the wrong way round; _omnipotence entails omniscience_, because an omnipotent being could always give themselves whatever knowledge (or source of knowledge) they required.  
That doesn’t make it redundant to talk about omnimax though, as hypothetically an omnipotent being might _choose_ not to be omniscient.

(And of course, from a practical POV I agree with other posters that the whole thing is stupid. I’m just having fun with abstract reasoning)

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-quantum-physics-proof-of-god/950490/143 "2021-09-29T04:50:14Z")

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The problem with this kind of reasoning about omniscience/potence and such godlike qualities are, e.g., it is impossible to predict the outcome of truly random events (think about radioactive decay, beam splitters, etc.) and, therefore, future events quite generally. So it seems you are arguing _against_ the possible existence of this type of being, at least if the world/quantum physics is not supposed to be an illusion.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-quantum-physics-proof-of-god/950490/144 "2021-09-29T09:52:14Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> The problem with this kind of reasoning about omniscience/potence and such godlike qualities are, e.g., it is impossible to predict the outcome of truly random events (think about radioactive decay, beam splitters, etc.) and, therefore, future events quite generally.

I don’t think that’s the main problem, because Gods are supposed to be supernatural beings in some sense “outside of” nature. Otherwise we could say that God couldn’t reverse the rotation of the Milky Way, for example, because of the c speed limit.

More specifically on predicting the future, I think most religionists would say that God is outside of time in such a way that he can see tomorrow’s particle decay the same way that you can see yesterday’s. He’s not sitting “in” time at some specific point.

I’m an atheist and I think the notion of supernatural beings is silly BTW, just summarizing the common response to your point.

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**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2021, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-quantum-physics-proof-of-god/950490/145 "2021-09-29T10:18:39Z")

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Absolutely. If God is limited by the speed of light, She will be continuously splitting into separate entities which cannot communicate with each other because of the cosmic event horizon. One hand wouldn’t know what the other hand was doing, in a very literal sense.

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