# Is Rachel Maddow right about Herman Cain? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2011, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156 "2011-11-07T11:18:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/61 "2011-11-09T15:07:30Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I guess the question I have and that no one so far has addressed is this - if you are running a serious race for the Presidential nomination of a major political party, how do you end up letting your candidate quote something (a “poet”) that ends up being the theme song to the Pokemon movie? “Herman Cain, I choose you!” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/62 "2011-11-09T17:59:36Z")
Does that mean that we have to stuff him into a two-inch Pokeball first? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/63 "2011-11-09T19:51:42Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > It’s just based on the idea that it’s Newt’s turn to be on top for a few weeks. But there’s also still Santorum and Huntsman, neither of whom has had a turn yet. Sounds like an RPS story I \*really \*don’t want to read… ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/64 "2011-11-09T20:35:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You forgot about the time when he denounced Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan (which absolutely nobody likes except far-right GOP primary voters). Those three aren’t going to get a turn. The reason they haven’t connected with the base yet is that they’re never going to. They’re too flawed. The far right voters can only choose from the people who are running, and only one candidate is running a campaign that is even a little bit credible. Since they’re choosing by process of elimination, I’ll say that it’s not Gingrich, Pawlenty, Huntsman, Romer, Perry, Johnson, Santorum, Bachmann, Paul, Christie, or Cain. In the future, everyone will be the Republican frontrunner for fifteen minutes… ---
**Author:** ![Snow\_Pea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Snow\_Pea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snow_Pea)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/65 "2011-11-10T19:05:59Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > He ran to promote his book sales. I don’t get who would actually pay money for his book…isn’t he basically a nobody? What wold he have to say that anyone would care about? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/66 "2011-11-10T19:26:41Z")
> [@Snow\_Pea](#): > > I don’t get who would actually pay money for his book… His campaign organization. ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/67 "2011-11-10T22:42:26Z")
Cain is our protest vote right now. If you were a Republican, would you be happy with any of these clowns? Unfortunately we have Gingrich who is intelligent and qualified to be president but he has way too much baggage and is a pompous ass. Although I love the zings he gets in on the media. Then we have the God fearing Perry who apparently can’t string two sentences together in a debate setting. Romney-- Gah, this guy would maybe make a decent president but he inspires nobody. He won’t be getting compared to Reagan or Obama in the charisma department anytime soon. And the rest don’t count so at the moment us Republicans are very sad Pandas. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/68 "2011-11-11T00:29:51Z")
Has anyone considered getting Cain a visit from Sexual Harassment Panda? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/69 "2012-01-27T20:05:58Z")
Resurrecting this since it’s also about Cain, rather than a candidate with a chance. Okay, so now Cain seems to be acting like he thinks Colbert actually supports him. On the [1/25/12 edition](http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/406901/january-25-2012/barack-obama-s-2012-state-of-the-union-address---gop-rebuttals) of the _Colbert Report_, there is a clip of him saying that Colbert’s support is good for the youth vote. Now, he’s avoided Colbert in the past, so it’s clear he realizes it is satire. So he’s got to trying to pull something over on the Tea Partiers, right? He can’t suddenly think that Colbert’s endorsement means anything other than he’s poking fun at him, can he? Or do you think he actually thinks that people who support him as a joke candidate will support him as a real candidate later? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/70 "2012-01-27T20:59:34Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Resurrecting this since it’s also about Cain, rather than a candidate with a chance. > > Okay, so now Cain seems to be acting like he thinks Colbert actually supports him. On the [1/25/12 edition](http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/406901/january-25-2012/barack-obama-s-2012-state-of-the-union-address---gop-rebuttals) of the _Colbert Report_, there is a clip of him saying that Colbert’s support is good for the youth vote. > > Now, he’s avoided Colbert in the past, so it’s clear he realizes it is satire. So he’s got to trying to pull something over on the Tea Partiers, right? He can’t suddenly think that Colbert’s endorsement means anything other than he’s poking fun at him, can he? > > Or do you think he actually thinks that people who support him as a joke candidate will support him as a real candidate later? Colbert’s “endorsement” was the only way Colbert could get on the ballot in South Carolina. I had thought Cain showing up at the rally was part being a good sport and playing along with the joke and part being an attention hog. If he really thought it was an endorsement (and I agree it sounded that way) he is even stupider than I had thought. And that is some stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/71 "2012-01-27T22:11:40Z")
I think your initial assessment is probably accurate. At this point Cain is just fucking with EVERYONE. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/72 "2012-01-28T03:05:16Z")
> [@](#): > > I think your initial assessment is probably accurate. At this point Cain is just fucking with EVERYONE. Isn’t that what caused him to drop out of the race? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156/73 "2012-01-28T12:49:39Z")
Cain said the endorsement helps “keep the youth vote inspired.” Given the rest of what he said, I don’t think he was saying the endorsement will encourage young voters to vote for him, I think he was just saying it’s good that there are shows which will help “immature” voters (his word) stay civically engaged. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-rachel-maddow-right-about-herman-cain/602156.md?page=3)