# Is real child porn very well hidden? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 20, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281 "2010-11-20T00:30:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tellyworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@tellyworth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tellyworth)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/41 "2012-10-30T22:07:35Z")
> [@trippyfatt](#): > > In America KP is controled and only accesable by the FBI and DOJ. > (snip) > There are existing sites in forighn countrys. They are not accessable in the USA. What does this mean? Are you claiming there is a mechanism in place in the USA that gives law enforcement the ability to censor access to web sites hosted offshore? (zombie thread) ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/42 "2012-10-30T22:38:06Z")
> [@trippyfatt](#): > > I just retired from the FBI after 25 years and heck I will be a wistle blower. > > There is a difference beetween CHILD PORNOGRAPHY and POROGRAPHY INVOLVING MINOS UNDER 15. Child pornography ( up until 9 years ago, child pornography could be googled ) At that time spam was running rampid and you could recive uncoliceted advertisments. In America KP is controled and only accesable by the FBI and DOJ. We did not have the tecnology to automaticlly searh for these site at time. Sadley to say Child Pornography could not be blocked. For ever site that is shut down there are 10 new sites. Most of the sites originated in RUSSIA JAPAN UKRAIN and some other forign countys. America had no legal coperation from russia at the time. Also due to the number of people that where counsomers ( millions ) It was impossible to enforce it… The industry was a gold mind catering to many consumers all over the world. USA had the most consumers. And it was impossible to arrest the tens of thousands of counsumers. > > Only a small fraction of counsumers who where selectet targets where arrested and > often would not be convicted of recie a week sentance.. Unless there is a particular site that deplicts pre pubesent children ( not tenagers ) that diplicked > Absue tourcure movies and trading ( that is ring ) LEA wount bother most of the time. There are existing sites in forighn countrys. They are not accessable in the USA. My advice to you if you know how to access these sites - Is get help, for one your hacking into govt servers and - not many people know how to do this. Also your information goes directly to the DOJ and ICE. So those are just some facts… > > To access and join a site in a foriegn county - you must go through the Law Enforcment and you will be caught. Given the number of spelling & grammatical errors, and given that FBI Agents are college educated, & given that all Federal Agents are either Lawyers or Accountants, & given that they type reports \*all the time…\*I’m a wee tad skeptical of your claims. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/43 "2012-10-30T22:41:25Z")
I’ll buy drunk and trying to type on a smartphone… ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/44 "2012-10-30T22:50:54Z")
I’ll buy “trippy” aint referring to the wallpaper. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/45 "2012-10-30T22:53:24Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Given the number of spelling & grammatical errors, and given that FBI Agents are college educated, & given that all Federal Agents are either Lawyers or Accountants, & given that they type reports \*all the time…\*I’m a wee tad skeptical of your claims. Beaten to it. ---
**Author:** ![dam0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@dam0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dam0)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/46 "2012-10-31T00:26:18Z")
If you want to seek it, you can get it. It’s not hard to come across if you’re interested in a certain type of legal porn and keep diving deeper and deeper in to the network of links which all feed each other. Eventually the sites you are taken too will get darker and darker until you hit rock bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/47 "2012-10-31T00:41:41Z")
> [@trippyfatt](#): > > I just retired from the FBI after 25 years and heck I will be a wistle blower. > > There is a difference beetween CHILD PORNOGRAPHY and POROGRAPHY INVOLVING MINOS UNDER 15. Child pornography ( up until 9 years ago, child pornography could be googled ) At that time spam was running rampid and you could recive uncoliceted advertisments. In America KP is controled and only accesable by the FBI and DOJ. We did not have the tecnology to automaticlly searh for these site at time. Sadley to say Child Pornography could not be blocked. For ever site that is shut down there are 10 new sites. Most of the sites originated in RUSSIA JAPAN UKRAIN and some other forign countys. America had no legal coperation from russia at the time. Also due to the number of people that where counsomers ( millions ) It was impossible to enforce it… The industry was a gold mind catering to many consumers all over the world. USA had the most consumers. And it was impossible to arrest the tens of thousands of counsumers. > > Only a small fraction of counsumers who where selectet targets where arrested and > often would not be convicted of recie a week sentance.. Unless there is a particular site that deplicts pre pubesent children ( not tenagers ) that diplicked > Absue tourcure movies and trading ( that is ring ) LEA wount bother most of the time. There are existing sites in forighn countrys. They are not accessable in the USA. My advice to you if you know how to access these sites - Is get help, for one your hacking into govt servers and - not many people know how to do this. Also your information goes directly to the DOJ and ICE. So those are just some facts… > > To access and join a site in a foriegn county - you must go through the Law Enforcment and you will be caught. This is bad. Very, very bad. You should be ashamed of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/48 "2012-10-31T00:42:13Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > all Federal Agents are either Lawyers or Accountants, Sorry to be dense–was the above intended as a joke, or is it a fact? ---
**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/49 "2012-10-31T00:43:51Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Real child porn, bestiality pics, and everything else you can imagine still exists out there on the internet but you generally won’t find it on Google which is a good thing for all of us. I wouldn’t believe anyone today that gave that defense as a general rule but I can see how it could have happened at one time. :dubious:You can find bestiality pics on a google search just fine. Just google girl with dog hard core or something similar and it pops up right up in yo face. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/50 "2012-10-31T00:47:28Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Given the number of spelling & grammatical errors, and given that FBI Agents are college educated, & given that all Federal Agents are either Lawyers or Accountants, & given that they type reports \*all the time…\*I’m a wee tad skeptical of your claims. > [@Frylock](#): > > Sorry to be dense–was the above intended as a joke, or is it a fact? He’s partly right. [FBI Qualifications](https://www.fbijobs.gov/111.asp) > [@](#): > > All applicants for the Special Agent position must first qualify under one of five Special Agent Entry Programs. These programs include: > > ``` > Accounting > Computer Science/Information Technology > Language > Law > Diversified > > ``` ---
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/51 "2012-10-31T01:08:11Z")
> [@trippyfatt](#): > > I just retired from the FBI after 25 years and heck I will be a wistle blower. Whatever turns you on, it’s never too late to come out of the closet. Seriously? How can we take this seriously. I’m not sure all FBI are lawyers or accountants, but their standards are pretty strict. 30 years or writing reports should produce something better than this. The spelling mistakes seem to be more phonetic poor spelling than fat fingers, no spellcheck or wrong-word insertions, grammatical oopses, so I’m not buying the “typing on a dumbphone” excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/52 "2012-10-31T01:13:59Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > He’s partly right. > [FBI Qualifications](https://www.fbijobs.gov/111.asp) Thanks. So no changing to an FBI career for this philosophy prof… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/53 "2012-10-31T01:16:23Z")
> [@trippyfatt](#): > > I just retired from the FBI after 25 years… Kool! Im a rokit syintist from the CIA-we shood git toggether and compair notes! ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/54 "2012-10-31T02:56:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Kool! Im a rokit syintist from the CIA-we shood git toggether and compair notes! You win the internets. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/55 "2012-10-31T03:30:06Z")
Also why would someone from the FBI think the cutoff for child pornography is age 15, when all the legal evidence points to it being age 18? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281/56 "2012-10-31T03:49:27Z")
FBI my ass. Closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-real-child-porn-very-well-hidden/561281.md?page=2)