This was what it was sounding like to me when the first CNN story appeared. There was something about Jackie showing stuff to Ryan that didn’t sound like people who are just casual acquaintances normally do.
That’s where we disagree : I think it doesn’t require a sociopath for someone to say “grab her leg”. Just the right (wrong?) circumstances/particular group dynamic amongst pretty regular people. A sociopath doesn’t care about anybody in any circumstance. A regular guy just won’t care about this particular thing done to this particular person at this particular moment, but might otherwise love cats and help at the local soup kitchen.
(regarding evil people, I’m not sure it makes a difference. Plenty of ordinary people will do evil things. I’m not sure it matters whether you call them “evil” or not.)
I believed that debts incured from judgments couldn’t be discharged by bankruptcy in the USA. But thinking twice, it doesn’t make much sense.
:dubious: Did you notice you changed the quote?
Hmmm…no. I thought it was “grab her leg” (so that we can rape her). What does “grab its leg” refer to?
It means what you thought, but it’s referring to her as an “it”. Hence the “sociopath” comment.
And a hysterectomy.
It suggests the speaker doesn’t even consider the rape victim a human being. By referring to her as “it” he puts her in a class with animals or possibly even inanimate objects. Hence the speculation that he’s a sociopath who sees the girl as a beast or a thing, but not a person.
There’s more news, and still none of it is good for Rolling Stone:
The original article in Rolling Stone said that ‘Jackie’ wasn’t the only woman claiming to have been gang raped in the Phi Kappa Psi, but that two other women had made similar claims. The Washington Post has attempted to look into this, and thus far hasn’t found any solid evidence that these other two women even exist.
The article also mentions a completely different episode involving a woman named ‘Stacy’ who claims that she was raped while completely drunk, and that the rapist had also assaulted two other women, and yet the university supposedly used legal technicalities as a basis for not expelling the man. Now a trove of emails between Rolling Stone and the UVA Administration has been released, including one where the Administration says “This is in fact objectively not true”. There are no details given.
While more information may come to light, at the moment it’s seeming as if Rolling Stone constructed the entire article around fictional cases.
So it’s trendy to claim you’ve been horrifically raped at college. Got it. Straight guys, come over to the gay side. It’s safer.
Remember the scene in Almost Famous where a Rolling Stone fact-checker eviscerated young William’s article, fact by fact? Wish she still worked there.
Charlottesville Police Department has investigated and found that no crime occurred at Phi Kappa Psi.
‘Our worst nightmare’: New legal filings detail reporting of Rolling Stone’s U-Va. gang rape story