# Is Sarah Palin turning into the white Al Sharpton? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 14, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703 "2011-03-14T21:45:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/81 "2011-03-18T14:38:19Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > When unions are corrupt, it is meaningless to call them free. What unions are corrupt? Prove it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/82 "2011-03-18T14:51:34Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > What unions are corrupt? Prove it. Oh dear lord. **Dio** , I’m begging you not to take an absolutist position on this. Some unions (the Teamsters spring to mind) have been shown in the past to be corrupt and involved with organized crime. I don’t know what their current status is but I’d bet that one could still find examples of corrupt unions. This doesn’t mean that one should assume that the odd episode of _The Sopranos_ demonstrates that all unions are intrinsically corrupt but let’s not say that no union anywhere is corrupt. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/83 "2011-03-18T14:51:53Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That’s what you really think? The left hates Sarah Plain because she’s (in your world) "popular among middle working class whites? This is honestly what you believe. You think the left fears middle and wrking class whites? Yes, they certainly do. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Then how do explain the fact that the majority of the American left ARE middle, working class white people? So what? A majority of middle and working class whites aren’t lefties. If you guys really represent their interests, why are most of them against you? Why do so many of them distrust you? What do you think their reaction is when progressives shrug off any reaction to the OJ trial, the Jena Six hoax, the Duke University rape hoax or any concern about racial violence against whites as “racism”? How do you think they feel about the endless witch hunt for racism, seeing as virtually every victim of it is white? > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Do you get this bilge right off of Stormfront or something? The left is rife with anti-white prejudice. Anyone who isn’t a fool blinded by political ideology can see that quite clearly. Susan Sontag and Ward Churchill were not fringe figures; they very much in the mainstream of the left. When a prominent member of the leftist intelligentsia can say things like “The white race is a cancer on human history,” and still remain prominent, it is reasonable to assume there’s a great deal of animosity against whites there. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Guess what, **Polecat** , I’m a working class white guy, and I think Sarah Palin is a fucking dummy with a mean streak, no qualifications and a narcissistic personality disorder. How do explain that? By noting that she is one of your political enemies, and you will believe anything horrible about her no matter what the evidence is. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Incidentally, how about a cite that Palin is popular with middle class white people? How about a cite for anything you’ve said? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/84 "2011-03-18T14:54:29Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > The left is rife with anti-white prejudice. Anyone who isn’t a fool blinded by political ideology can see that quite clearly. Excuse me, but you’ve dropped your bottle of well poison. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/85 "2011-03-18T14:55:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > So basically, Sharpton had fuck all to do with the killing. Oh, yeah, right. Stirring up hatred against a white business doesn’t mean you have any responsibility whatsoever when violence breaks out. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/86 "2011-03-18T14:59:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Sarah Palin didn’t personally shoot Gabriele Giffords but plenty of people place some of the responsibility on her because of things she said. Ptooey. The lefties were just looking for some excuse, any excuse, no matter how weak, to smear Palin. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/87 "2011-03-18T15:03:43Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > I know, I keep waiting for some hard-nosed muckraker like Katie Couric to ask Sharpton the hard questions like what newspapers and magazines he reads. I keep waiting for the lapdog media to assemble a crew of reporters to dig up any dirt they can find about Sharpton, as they did with Palin within hours of the anouncement of her nomination. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/88 "2011-03-18T15:10:40Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Who exactly do you think the left _are_? Well, they certainly aren’t a majority of middle and working class whites, or anything close to it. > [@Gyrate](#): > > Er, no. The left hates Sarah Palin because she is a narcissistic idiot with no demonstrated competency for higher office. You have her confused with Obama. At least Palin had some actual experience of governing, unlike your community organizer. > [@Gyrate](#): > > President Sarah Palin would be like a toddler holding an Uzi - capable of inflicting enormous damage to the country, the world and/or herself without really being fully aware of the consequences of her actions. LOL! I look at the blundering fool you’ve put in the White House, and I don’t see how it would be possible for Palin to do as much damage as he’s done in a mere two years. Hell, Bush Jr. didn’t do as much damage, and he got us into a completely useless war in Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/89 "2011-03-18T15:12:39Z")
They actually protected poor Sarah more than they ever should have, and Al Sharpton gets treated like garbage by the media. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/90 "2011-03-18T15:23:07Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Well, they certainly aren’t a majority of middle and working class whites, or anything close to it. Of course not. They’re all black welfare queens and illegal immigrants committing voter fraud! James O’Keefe proved it! > [@](#): > > You have her confused with Obama. At least Palin had some actual experience of governing, unlike your community organizer. What - a scandal-ridden mayor of a one-moose town followed by a term as Governor she quit halfway through “for the good of the state”, as opposed to the Harvard constitutional law scholar and Senator? > [@](#): > > LOL! I look at the blundering fool you’ve put in the White House, and I don’t see how it would be possible for Palin to do as much damage as he’s done in a mere two years. Take the blinders off; it’s easier to see. The worst things Obama has done have been to continue policies of the previous administration. Hardly a ringing endorsement of the GOP by comparison. > [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > I keep waiting for the lapdog media to assemble a crew of reporters to dig up any dirt they can find about Sharpton, as they did with Palin within hours of the anouncement of her nomination. There’s a reason Sharpton will never win public office. The press already have barrels of dirt on file and they drag them out every time he runs. He’ll never get rid of the stain of the Tawana Brawley incident. But of course anything bad the press say about Sarah Palin is just them being mean to her. I don’t know how someone so thin-skinned ever thought she could run for national office. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/91 "2011-03-18T15:33:46Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > I keep waiting for the lapdog media to assemble a crew of reporters to dig up any dirt they can find about Sharpton, as they did with Palin within hours of the anouncement of her nomination. I know, they totally should have done that when Sharpton was chosen as a vice presidential candidate of major-party nominee, and had a 50 percent chance of being a heartbeat away from leading the free world. Remind when that was again? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/92 "2011-03-18T17:00:33Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > No cognitive dissonance there, bub. The union movement hasn’t honestly represented working people of any race for decades. > > The left hates middle and working class whites because that’s where much of their opposition comes from. The last thing the left wants is for them to have any figure they can rally around, and that’s why there is so much vicious hatred for Sarah Palin. I don’t know, those teachers protesting in Wisconsin looked pretty white and middle class to me. And I didn’t see them getting much love from the right. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/93 "2011-03-18T17:54:52Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > At least Palin had some actual experience of governing, unlike your community organizer. You realize that Obama has been president of the United States longer than Palin was governor of Alaska? ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/94 "2011-03-18T18:13:34Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > That would be an improvement, wouldn’t it? He probably writes his own speeches too. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/95 "2011-03-18T18:38:28Z")
Those who care about the future of the United States should take Sarah Palin with fearful seriousness. She is more stupid and ignorant than Ronald Reagan, and more sure of herself than George W. Bush. Reagan had capable advisers. He listened to his advisers. Palin’s advisers during the 2008 campaign said that she refused to listen. If the economy and the international situation get worse, and if there is a major terror attack on American soil, She could actually be elected president. Right now she generates more excitement than any other contender for president. With her simple minded solutions to serious, and possibly intractable problems, she could make things much worse during a time when we have little margin of error. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/96 "2011-03-18T18:50:15Z")
Palin’s popularity among Republicans plummets: [http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/palins-popularity-declines-among-republicans/?hp](http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/palins-popularity-declines-among-republicans/?hp) > [@](#): > > Perhaps more importantly, Ms. Palin was not the sort of candidate who could afford to lose any popularity. \*\*Her ratings are now in the range of Al Sharpton \*\*and Pat Buchanan in the years before they ran for president, rather than those who were considered viable candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/97 "2011-03-18T19:18:35Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Ptooey. The lefties were just looking for some excuse, any excuse, no matter how weak, to smear Palin. Ptooey? Did you actually just write the word ptooey in a post? Do you ever notice that none of your posts ever have any evidence? They’re all just you declaring something is true. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/98 "2011-03-19T09:52:12Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Ptooey. The lefties were just looking for some excuse, any excuse, no matter how weak, to smear Palin. All one needs to do to make Sarah Palin look bad is ask her a question she is not prepared for like, “What newspapers do you read?” She couldn’t even name her local newspaper. That woman is preposterously ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/99 "2011-03-19T11:33:04Z")
Katie Couric, the notorious attack journalist really was hard on Sarah. Oh wait, that is Katie Couric the now really treated all that seriously herself and compared to pixies and faeries on the Simpsons. [emily littella]Nevermind[/emily littella] Sarah Palin is a joke. When Al Sharpton ran for President it was mostly as a joke and as a way to try and keep the Dems honest on some issues. Sarah actually was put on the ticket and that is just sad. Neither belongs on an actual ticket at all, past present or future. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703/100 "2011-03-19T13:47:46Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > You realize that Obama has been president of the United States longer than Palin was governor of Alaska? Yeah, but when you add in her time as mayor of Wasilla… As an incidental note, the number of employees of the executive branch of the American government exceeds that of Alaska, so on that basis alone Obama is in charge of more people than Palin ever was. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sarah-palin-turning-into-the-white-al-sharpton/574703.md?page=4)