# Is Scaramucci really this fucking stupid?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 27, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265 "2017-07-27T15:07:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/141 "2017-07-28T19:02:07Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> You also don’t usually end up with $40M (or whatever his net worth is) by being stupid.

How much money did Al Capone make?  
He spent some of it bribing another prisoner to take his syphilis medicine.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/142 "2017-07-28T19:19:25Z")

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FBI: “Sure Mooch. We’ll get RIGHT on that.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/143 "2017-07-28T19:38:42Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Not really. Stupid people don’t usually get through those schools with a degree. That is, you get an education by going there, but you generally don’t get in and you don’t get through if you are “stupid”. (He’s no legacy fart either.)  
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Emphasis added.

Serious question: how do you explain Trump’s ignorance of the simplest things that are common knowledge among educated people (Douglass, France being a historical ally, Israel being in the Middle East)? Trump has a college degree and he is both stupid AND ignorant. Did he go to any classes or do any work? Hell, a middle-schooler knows the stuff he is ignorant of. I think Trump’s college degree was bought and paid for, i.e., he paid others to take his exams and do his work.

I’m not saying this applies to The Mooch, but focusing on your word, “usually,” stupid people can and do emerge from college (even fancy-schamncy colleges) culturally and functionally illiterate.

I sat with a young VP at Chase Bank (college degreed) earlier this week. He alluded to a street in our city named (as he pronounced it) _POT-oh-mack_. I said, “Do you mean Potomac?” How did he get through college without ever hearing the name of the Potomac River said out loud enough times so he could pronounce it correctly? For that matter, I’m pretty sure he didn’t know that the street was named for that river.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/144 "2017-07-28T19:49:12Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Stupid is contextual. I’m a smart guy, and I have an education, but if I were to pretend I knew how to fly a 777, and foisted myself off as a pilot, as the plane plunged into the ocean you’d probably think I was pretty goddamn stupid. You’d be right.

In some contexts that might be relevant, but not in the context of this thread.

You’re effectively reducing “he is stupid” to mean the exact same thing as “he did something stupid”. Because anyone who does anything stupid (e.g. pretending to fly a 777 etc.) is stupid, the way you’re looking at it. But the context of this thread is that it begins with the premise that Scaramucci is acting stupid. The question was whether he really is this stupid. Responding to that question by simply redefining “is this stupid” to mean the same thing as “acting stupid” is pointless.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/145 "2017-07-28T19:49:38Z")

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Think my folks had a Potomac. Comfy for long drives, named after some Indian. Not cool indians like the Cherokee or the Choctaw, the other kind.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/146 "2017-07-28T20:02:17Z")

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I love the fact that his nickname is “The Mooch.” It makes him sound like a character in a Bowery Boys movie who wears his baseball cap backwards.

The only reason he’s “not trying to suck his own cock” like Bannon is that somehow he’s managed to get it in his own ass.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/147 "2017-07-28T20:06:02Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I love the fact that his nickname is “The Mooch.” It makes him sound like a character in a Bowery Boys movie who wears his baseball cap backwards.
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> The only reason he’s “not trying to suck his own cock” like Bannon is that somehow he’s managed to get it in his own ass.

With his head already being up there, it should still be possible.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/148 "2017-07-28T20:07:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> He’s already accidentally backstabbed his boss once and he’s going to step on his own dick more than a few times in the near future.

Hey, hey, hey! The Mooch ain’t no backstabber, all right? He’s a frontstabber!

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/149 "2017-07-28T20:08:02Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> In some contexts that might be relevant, but not in the context of this thread.

You appear not to have read the OP. The OP recognizes that Scaramucci is a financier, an occupation that takes some intelligence. He asks how he could possibly be so ignorant of the regulations of his own field and know that his disclosure documents are public record. And being that ignorant really is stupid.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/150 "2017-07-28T20:13:36Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You appear not to have read the OP. The OP recognizes that Scaramucci is a financier, an occupation that takes some intelligence. He asks how he could possibly be so ignorant of the regulations of his own field and know that his disclosure documents are public record. And being that ignorant really is stupid.

You appear not to have understood the OP. The OP’s question implied that anyone with enough intelligence to be a financier should know better than that. The OP assumed that general intelligence was likely a contradiction to this level of specific ignorance, and that this was therefore puzzling.

Several other posters seemed to take the stance that the guy really is stupid in general, his prior career notwithstanding. I think that’s unlikely, but it did at least address the OP. But simply responding that by virtue of acting stupid he is stupid doesn’t add anything at all.

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/151 "2017-07-28T20:22:45Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> No it wasn’t a shit argument. The guy made a shitload as a hedge fund manager. It’s perfectly reasonable to think he’s a wart on humanity. But thinking he only made money because he fell ass backwards into good managers and assistants is goddamn idiotic, especially when it’s based on Sherrerd’s oh so objective verbiage analysis.

I agree, writing that people who make $10’s mils from nothing (like Scaramucci) are ‘stupid’, just as disembodied voice on the internet with no particular achievements on display, doesn’t make that writer look too smart.

Of course luck factors in and it’s a probabilities game: you can seldom say exactly why people who get rich do unless the lottery\*. But the probability ‘Mooch’ has ‘avg or below IQ’ is extremely low. Actually it’s pretty obviously not the case if you’ve seen him in his fairly extensive appearances on financial TV shows over the years. He’s always seemed to me more the kind of WS guy whose key talent is picking up things from other people and promoting himself than any real genius himself, but you can’t do that to the tune of ‘even’ a few $10mils if you aren’t still pretty smart. There isn’t _that_ much money lying around on WS. 🙂

You can make dumb mistakes as a smart person, and be an obnoxious smart person.

\*even with the kind of ‘inventive genius’ rich people anti-capitalist types are willing to grudgingly admire (Jobs, Gates, etc) there’s usually some question how much of the genius really came from them as opposed to less celebrated less savvy collaborators.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/152 "2017-07-28T20:28:44Z")

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> [@Corry\_El](#):
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> You can make dumb mistakes as a smart person, and be an obnoxious smart person.

There’s a little thing called hubris which seems to cause even the most intelligent among us to pitch reason out the window.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/153 "2017-07-28T20:31:11Z")

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As another educated man once said, “Stupid is as stupid does.”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/154 "2017-07-28T20:32:42Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> As another educated man once said, “Stupid is as stupid does.”

Hey now, credit where it’s due. It was his Mama who always said that.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/155 "2017-07-28T20:34:10Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> You appear not to have understood the OP.

No u.🙂

You said, “within the context of this thread.” You didn’t say “some posts in this thread.” The context of this thread rather obviously includes the OP.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/156 "2017-07-28T20:37:45Z")

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Exactly. That’s why your not understanding the OP is relevant.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/157 "2017-07-28T20:39:26Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Hey now, credit where it’s due. It was his Mama who always said that.

Yeah, but it’s all in the delivery.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/158 "2017-07-28T20:41:39Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Yeah, but it’s all in the delivery.

I get it. When we’re at social engagements, I always have to chide my husband to stop ruining my stories with the truth. 😃

It’s harder to get away with that shit here; we’re a lovely bunch of pedantic nitpickers.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/159 "2017-07-28T20:49:57Z")

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Page Six is reporting that The Mooch’s wife is filing for divorce because she despises Trump and Mooch’s naked political ambition.

> **[Anthony Scaramucci’s wife files for divorce](https://pagesix.com/2017/07/28/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-files-for-divorce/)**
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> The White House’s potty-mouthed new communications director has been dumped by his beautiful blond wife because of his “naked political ambition.”

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-scaramucci-really-this-fucking-stupid/792265/160 "2017-07-28T21:03:35Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Page Six is reporting that The Mooch’s wife is filing for divorce because she despises Trump and Mooch’s naked political ambition.  
> [Anthony Scaramucci’s wife files for divorce | Page Six](http://pagesix.com/2017/07/28/anthony-scaramuccis-wife-files-for-divorce/)

She caught them naked together!!?  
Awesome!

😃

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