# Is Shodan more retarded lately, or has he maintained a consistent level of retardation all along? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 24, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530 "2012-01-24T20:31:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/21 "2012-01-24T22:27:33Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Shut up, you fucking troll. It would have been funnier if you put the Regards Shodan at the end of that post. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/22 "2012-01-24T22:28:45Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Good guy, even when I disagree. > A conservative voice in this liberal-dominated board. > You’re pissing off the right people, **Shodan**. A _conservative voice_ should probably sound more like Buckley and less like Sloth from Goonies. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/23 "2012-01-24T22:29:44Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Good guy, even when I disagree. > A conservative voice in this liberal-dominated board. > You’re pissing off the right people, **Shodan**. Nice try but you didn’t quite nail the format. [This article](http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Haiku-Poem) might help you in the future. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/24 "2012-01-24T22:31:47Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I think we have a lot of good conservative contributors even if they don’t always bat 1.000. What does that have to do with Shodan? Seriously, we do have a number of good conservative posters here. And then we have Shodan. And Clothahump. And Senile Artist. And ralphrandomnumbers. And What the… Has Never Been Seen in the Same Room as ralphrandomnumbers. And a whole bunch of others that I can’t be bothered to remember at the moment. If a person doesn’t believe when they come here that conservativism is a symptom of a mental deficit, Shodan and his friends are here to help convince them. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/25 "2012-01-24T22:43:25Z")
Shut up, you troll fucker. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/26 "2012-01-24T22:45:43Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Good guy, even when I disagree. > A conservative voice in this liberal-dominated board. > You’re pissing off the right people, **Shodan**. And what do we call people who post just to piss off others? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/27 "2012-01-24T22:49:08Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Good guy, even when I disagree. > A conservative voice in this liberal-dominated board. > You’re pissing off the right people, **Shodan**. I wonder if there’s a name for that. You know, posting just to piss people off. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/28 "2012-01-24T22:50:18Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > What does that have to do with Shodan? > > Seriously, we do have a number of good conservative posters here. And then we have Shodan. And Clothahump. And Senile Artist. And ralphrandomnumbers. And What the… Has Never Been Seen in the Same Room as ralphrandomnumbers. And a whole bunch of others that I can’t be bothered to remember at the moment. > > If a person doesn’t believe when they come here that conservativism is a symptom of a mental deficit, Shodan and his friends are here to help convince them. That kind of sums it up. In reality, there are no “good conservative posters” here. What there are are people who get trotted out in a some-of-my-best-friends-are-black way by liberals looking to lend false legitimacy to their ideology-driven attacks. But all these supposed “good conservative posters” get attacked in the same manner, when it’s their turn. I’m willing to be proved wrong. Show me some "“good conservative posters” who are [ul] [li]true conservatives by the standards of political distribution of this country,[/li][li]prolific posters on political topics, and[/li][li]are not attacked in the same general manner as Shodan is being attacked[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/29 "2012-01-24T22:50:41Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] And what do we call people who post just to piss off others? [/QUOTE] The name would vary, depending on who’s gore was being oxed…and how much blood was in the water for the requisite pile on. -XT ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/30 "2012-01-24T22:51:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And what do we call people who post just to piss off others? Troll…fuckers? No, wait. Come back to me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/31 "2012-01-24T22:53:00Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I have on occasion seen **Shodan** say something interesting or helpful in non-political threads. > > I have never seen him do so in a political thread. > > I can happily name conservatives who have done so, and I can name leftists who are in the same category as **Shodan** , so this isn’t a left/right thing. It may be a tries-to-communicate/revels-in-his-half-wittiness thing, though. I pretty much concur, although I would change “never” to “very rarely” in the second sentence. He’s one of those people who constantly posts links without quoting from the links, and 9 times out of 10 the link will not support his argument. Generally, though, I skip his posts since they are more in the Ann Coulter vein of discourse. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/32 "2012-01-24T22:54:07Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > That kind of sums it up. In reality, there are no “good conservative posters” here. What there are are people who get trotted out in a some-of-my-best-friends-are-black way by liberals looking to lend false legitimacy to their ideology-driven attacks. But all these supposed “good conservative posters” get attacked in the same manner, when it’s their turn. > > I’m willing to be proved wrong. Show me some "“good conservative posters” who are > [ul] > [li]true conservatives by the standards of political distribution of this country,[/li][li]prolific posters on political topics, and[/li][li]are not attacked in the same general manner as Shodan is being attacked[/li][/ul] I’m sorry I forgot you, dear. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/33 "2012-01-24T22:56:42Z")
I do not find Shodan anywhere near as pants-on-head retarded as Clothy, as incoherent as ralphrandomnumbers nor as historically myopic and delusional as Starving Artist. Also, he’s no Carol Stream. So, as stupid right leaning partisans go, he’s not first string. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/34 "2012-01-24T22:56:52Z")
Damn you, **Czarcasm**. Anyway, to finish commenting on **Aji** ’s really helpful post: There’s the problem. Most of the time **Shodan** seems to post to political threads more to express his general dislike of “liberals” (however one defines such a broad category), than to make an on-topic argument. You really think ‘pissing off the right people’ strengthens a particular position? ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/35 "2012-01-24T22:57:32Z")
**Sam Stone** (is he still around?), **Bricker** , **John Mace** , I’m not sure how to qualify **xt** … plenty of others I can’t think of off the top of my head. **Martin Hyde** is generally conservative I think, and certainly smart and a useful poster. There are also plenty of religious posters that do a very good job of presenting their views. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/36 "2012-01-24T22:58:35Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I do not find Shodan anywhere near as pants-on-head retarded as Clothy, as incoherent as ralphrandomnumbers nor as historically myopic and delusional as Starving Artist. Also, he’s no Carol Stream. > > So, as stupid right leaning partisans go, he’s not first string. Yeah, that’s true too. And he’s nowhere near as dumb as **gonzomax** was from the left, so he’s got that going for him. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/37 "2012-01-24T23:00:26Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > That kind of sums it up. In reality, there are no “good conservative posters” here. What there are are people who get trotted out in a some-of-my-best-friends-are-black way by liberals looking to lend false legitimacy to their ideology-driven attacks. But all these supposed “good conservative posters” get attacked in the same manner, when it’s their turn. > > I’m willing to be proved wrong. Show me some "“good conservative posters” who are > [ul] > [li]true conservatives by the standards of political distribution of this country,[/li][li]prolific posters on political topics, and[/li][li]are not attacked in the same general manner as Shodan is being attacked[/li][/ul] I’d say Bricker, Xtsime, and John Mace would apply. The trouble is currently the face of the Republican party is particularly extreme, so the type of poster who blindly parrots the talking points on FOX is going to be saying stupid things that can’t be defended. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/38 "2012-01-24T23:03:19Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > Nice try but you didn’t quite nail the format. [This article](http://www.wikihow.com/Write-a-Haiku-Poem) might help you in the future. He’s conservative Likes pissing off liberals A really good guy > [@Czarcasm](#): > > And what do we call people who post just to piss off others? > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I wonder if there’s a name for that. You know, posting just to piss people off. Writing JUST TO piss off is wrong. The fact that your ideas piss someone who doesn’t want to hear the other side is the national sport at the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/39 "2012-01-24T23:05:50Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > **Shodan** is the least valuable member of this board. I can think of leaster. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530/40 "2012-01-24T23:09:59Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > **Sam Stone** (is he still around?), **Bricker** , **John Mace** , I’m not sure how to qualify **xt** … plenty of others I can’t think of off the top of my head. **Martin Hyde** is generally conservative I think, and certainly smart and a useful poster. Sam Stone & Bricker have been viciously attacked by liberals on this board. John Mace is not conservative. (I don’t know about XT or Martin Hyde - both where their denomination falls and how often they’ve been attacked for it - from what I’ve seen, they are both pretty middle of the road.) > [@Lobohan](#): > > The trouble is currently the face of the Republican party is particularly extreme, so the type of poster who blindly parrots the talking points on FOX is going to be saying stupid things that can’t be defended. IOW, IYO conservatives are by definition stupid. Which is your prerogative. But you can’t maintain that position and then claim that you’re not attacking conservatives as being stupid based on their being conservatives, which is the claim being made here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-shodan-more-retarded-lately-or-has-he-maintained-a-consistent-level-of-retardation-all-along/610530.md?page=3)