# Is Sienna Miller even a star? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 15, 2006, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512 "2006-10-15T12:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2006, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/21 "2006-10-15T23:24:04Z")
Just on the strength of the abovesaid _Keen Eddie_, she can do no wrong in my book. That was a series Foxed before its time. Plus, she’s, you know, hot. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2006, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/22 "2006-10-15T23:28:07Z")
[QUOTE=Alessan] Based on your link, she was pretty much the Paris Hilton of her day. Why should we have remembered her? [/QUOTE] She was a fairly prominent character in one of the books about punk that I’ve read. She deserves better than to be compared to Paris Hilton. She hung out with a lot of interesting people and seems to have been an interesting person herself. According to the Wikipedia link the song “Femme Fatale” is about her. Out of all of Andy Warhol’s superstars, she seems to be one of the more better known ones. At least she’s one of the few I’ve heard of. ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2006, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/23 "2006-10-15T23:28:57Z")
I always wonder when I read something like this what would possess someone to say those things. Do you think the interviewer has a few drinks with them and they forget they are being interviewed? Does the interviewer make some remarks and the star tries to be cool and goes along with it? I’m sure she’s no mental giant, but I doubt if she’s an idiot. It’s just sort of mind boggling that’s she’d be so stupid. She’s done PR for other films before. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/24 "2006-10-16T03:51:21Z")
Just came in here to reply “No.” Makes Paris Hilton look utterly charming. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/25 "2006-10-16T05:08:47Z")
[QUOTE=bienville] Well, she is in fact no more important than anyone else and has far from attained the public face, or even name, recognition that she should reasonably expect anyone to know who she _is!!!_. [/QUOTE] Really, who gives a shit other than some yokels in Pittsburgh? She’s a good actress. Whatever she may or may not have said in Rolling Stone (anyone got some actual quotes?) or did that got an obscure Tavern some great publicity, I’ll be looking forward to whatever movies she’s in. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/26 "2006-10-16T10:23:28Z")
[QUOTE=Talon Karrde] According to the Wikipedia link the song “Femme Fatale” is about her. [/QUOTE] Also the excellent song by The Cult - _Edie (Ciao Baby)_ ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/27 "2006-10-16T10:55:25Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] No, not particularly. [/QUOTE] Yeah, it really does. [QUOTE=bienville] Who the hell asked who the hell Edie Sedgwick is? [/QUOTE] RickJay [QUOTE=Cat Fight] Makes Paris Hilton look utterly charming [/QUOTE] NOBODY makes Paris Hilton look utterly charming, and Hilton has no redeeming qualities, such as being a talented actress. And beautiful (since I think PH is butt-ugly). And smart enough to walk and chew gum at the same time. [QUOTE=Krokodil] I just watched Casanova and she is terrific in it. Isn’t that enough validation? [/QUOTE] It is for me. She could be Her Royal Highness Queen of Bitches in real life (not that I think so), but in **Casanova** she was sparkling, charming, smart and funny. Nice to see that someone in the universe besides me saw that movie. [QUOTE=Krokodil] She’s one of a number of Brit celebs–others would include David Beckham, Pete Doherty and all the former Spice Girls and All Saints–who could cause a Beatlesesque mob panic by walking down the street anywhere in the UK or continental Europe, but could pass unknown over here. [/QUOTE] Odd about that, isn’t it? I wonder if some of those people vacation in America, because they know they’re not going to be bothered here. Isn’t Sienna American? ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/28 "2006-10-16T11:06:20Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] I wonder if some of those people vacation in America, because they know they’re not going to be bothered here. Isn’t Sienna American? [/QUOTE] She is, but she spends most of her time in Europe, because apparently for Sienna, not being recognized is unbearable. She may or may not be a decent actress. Even if she is, she’s still a yapping famewhore, primarily known for being Jude Law’s badly dressed arm candy. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/29 "2006-10-16T11:22:35Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] She may or may not be a decent actress. Even if she is, she’s still a yapping famewhore, \*\*primarily known \*\* for being Jude Law’s badly dressed arm candy. [/QUOTE] By people who pay more attention to tabloid fodder than movies. I pay more attention to movies. I forgot she was also in the very good **Layer Cake** too. [QUOTE=DianaG] badly dressed [/QUOTE] I’ve never gone looking for Sienna Miller photos before, but I just did. There are [a bunch on this page](http://ibarenelei.forumfree.net/?t=4226093) and most of her outfits are quite cute. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/30 "2006-10-16T11:59:18Z")
Just a note: I read somewhere that her mom is a highly-respected acting coach in the UK. She, at various points, has been compared to Kate Winslet, who also comes from an acting family. (sorry can’t find the cite). She may have said some stupid stuff and clearly the whole Jude Law thing comes across poorly, but she is more than a twit like Paris Hilton and very different from Edie Sedgwick… ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/31 "2006-10-16T12:03:35Z")
A quick Google revealed: [http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1808454413/bio](http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1808454413/bio) > [@](#): > > Born on December 28, 1982, in New York, Miller grew up in a well-to-do home. Her father, Ed Miller, was a prominent banker who was married to top interior designer, Kelly Hoppen, for over ten years. Her biological mom, Jo Miller, directed a Lee Strasberg program at a London drama school. Miller spent most of her youth attending school in England, including Heathfield in Ascot, Surrey, one of the few remaining all-girl boarding schools. As a student, Miller was known for her wild side: she had a penchant for streaking the lacrosse field and snogging the gardener. All in all, Miller balanced having a good time with excelling in her studies, which included music, dance, sports and acting. > > Miller returned to New York after graduating from Heathfield to study acting full time at the Lee Strasberg Institute. The actress performed in numerous NYC productions, including “A School for Scandal” by British playwright Richard Brinsely Sheridan and “Cigarettes and Chocolate” by writer/director Anthony Minghella. Miller made the jump to television with her role as Fiona Bickerton on “Keen Eddie”, where she played a British woman forced to live with an NYPD detective (Valley), who is on the trail of a drug dealer he let get away back in the States. I am quite indifferent - I thought she was attractive in her 30 seconds or so of screen time in the movie **Layer Cake** - but thought these tidbits might add to the thread… ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/32 "2006-10-16T12:15:09Z")
[QUOTE=foxymoron] Now I just think of her as Jude Law’s Girlfriend and someone with [terrible taste in clothes](http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/go_fug_yourself/sienna_miller/index.html). [/QUOTE] Admittedly, I am a big fan of Heather and Jessica, but Ms. Millers’ regular appearances on Go Fug Yourself are the only thing I know her from. Her and the Peldons. Who is Courtney Peldon and why does she dress so badly? So yeah, Sienna Miller: not a big star to me. Plus, Pittsburgh is a very nice city. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/33 "2006-10-16T12:30:55Z")
[QUOTE=Kyla] Admittedly, I am a big fan of Heather and Jessica, but Ms. Millers’ regular appearances on Go Fug Yourself are the only thing I know her from. Her and the Peldons. Who is Courtney Peldon and why does she dress so badly? So yeah, Sienna Miller: not a big star to me. Plus, Pittsburgh is a very nice city. [/QUOTE] I tend to lump people like Sienna Miller and the Peldons into roughly the same category: People who are known for who they are, not for anything they’ve done. I’ve heard of both only because of the fact that they live to be in public places. Robin ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/34 "2006-10-16T13:30:14Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] By people who pay more attention to tabloid fodder than movies. I pay more attention to movies. I forgot she was also in the very good **Layer Cake** too. [/quote] Well, I pay little attention to tabloid fodder, but admittedly less to Sienna Miller’s movies. So regarding her acting abilities, I’ll defer to you and the seventeen other people who saw Layer Cake. > [@Equipoise](#): > > I’ve never gone looking for Sienna Miller photos before, but I just did. There are [a bunch on this page](http://ibarenelei.forumfree.net/?t=4226093) and most of her outfits are quite cute. No, they aren’t. She looks as though she broke into Kate Moss’s house, the brown Olsen’s house, and Tara Reid’s house, raided their closets in the dark, and then threw the ill-gotten rags over her body at random. ---
**Author:** ![hopesperson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@hopesperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hopesperson)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/35 "2006-10-16T13:41:40Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] I’ve never gone looking for Sienna Miller photos before, but I just did. There are [a bunch on this page](http://ibarenelei.forumfree.net/?t=4226093) and most of her outfits are quite cute. [/QUOTE] Just wanted to mention that there are some borderline NSFW photos on the linked page. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/36 "2006-10-16T14:17:05Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] I wonder if some of those people vacation in America, because they know they’re not going to be bothered here. [/QUOTE] Heh, they definitely do. I was visiting Seattle with a couple of English girls and they absolutely freaked out because they ran into [Wayne Rooney](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Rooney) in a shop. ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/37 "2006-10-16T16:33:41Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I don’t believe the gossip 100%. She’s 25, and they were giving her guff for not having ID while in the presence of her parents? For good reason. The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board uses the State Police to check that bars are not serving underaged people. They will even set up stings by sending underaged people into bars. If the underaged person gets served, whammo. The server can personally receive a large fine ($3000, IIRC) and the bar can lose their liquor license. I was in a bar when such a sting happened last week. I think the bar staff’s motivation was more CYA rather than “Neener, neener, neener.” ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/38 "2006-10-16T16:43:22Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] Really, who gives a shit other than some yokels in Pittsburgh? [/QUOTE] We call them “yinzers”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![davenportavenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@davenportavenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davenportavenger)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/39 "2006-10-16T17:17:41Z")
I’d never heard of her until the Shittsburgh incident. And now I hate her. She ain’t all that attractive anyways. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512/40 "2006-10-16T17:31:30Z")
[QUOTE=SmackFu] Heh, they definitely do. I was visiting Seattle with a couple of English girls and they absolutely freaked out because they ran into [Wayne Rooney](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Rooney) in a shop. [/QUOTE] WHo the hell is Wayne Rooney? (looking at link) He plays football? Never heard of him. Oh, I guess that’s really “soccer” that he plays. In that case, so what? 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-sienna-miller-even-a-star/376512.md?page=3)