# Is South Park dead? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 26, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021 "2009-11-26T11:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/1 "2009-11-26T11:18:14Z")
I’ve been a fan since the beginning, but this season was terrible. Imho, they just don’t have the desire anymore to put out a quality show. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/2 "2009-11-26T12:38:24Z")
I don’t think so. I actually thought this season was pretty good, with a few episodes being merely average. The ones I thought were good: The Coon Margaritaville Fishsticks Pinewood Derby Fatbeard Dead Celebrities WTF The F Word Pee (yes, I said I liked Pee) The ones I thought were OK, but average: The Ring Eat, Pray, Queef Butters’ Bottom Bitch Whale Whores Dances With Smurfs I didn’t find any of the episodes this season to be unwatchable, like I have in previous seasons. You could say for any show with South Park’s longevity that the writers are running out of ideas. And South Park really only has the two writers, Matt and Trey. And they’ve cranked out 195 episodes so far. People have been lamenting the quality of the Simpsons for far longer, and the Simpsons have had twice as many episodes and far more writers. And like you, I’ve been a fan since the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/3 "2009-11-26T13:11:34Z")
They don’t have a team of writers now? I always figured that eventually they got more writers than just Matt and Trey. But if not…well, good for them. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/4 "2009-11-26T15:52:10Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > They don’t have a team of writers now? I always figured that eventually they got more writers than just Matt and Trey. But if not…well, good for them. I think they do, but a vast majority are written by them. I always think they are dead, then they will hit a home run. Imaginationland from a couple years ago is their best episodes(or mini-movie, really.) I like the one with Barack Obama and John McCain post-election. This year was weak, though, I admit that. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/5 "2009-11-26T15:55:06Z")
Of this season episodes, I found far more misses than hits I liked; The Coon Margaritaville Whale Whores Pinewood Derby Dead Celebrities Meh episodes: The F Word The Ring Fatbeard Butters’ Bottom Bitch Dances With Smurfs I _hated_: Fishsticks Pee Eat, Pray, Queef WTF ---
**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/6 "2009-11-26T17:52:33Z")
If we’re including both “halves” as one season: Good: The Ring The Coon Margaritaville Pinewood Derby Fatbeard Butters’ Bottom Bitch Dances With Smurfs Average: Fishsticks WTF The F Word Bad: Eat, Pray, Queef Dead Celebrities Whale Whores Pee It certainly seemed as if the second half of the season was not as good as the first. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if South Park is just something they do for the money at this point. They only do half seasons and the show is off the air for 8 months of of the year. If they still found doing the show invigorating, they’d be making more episodes. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/7 "2009-11-26T17:59:58Z")
South Park has the ability to crank out a story while the issue is hot. Few shows can do that. They have done some great shows. One of my favorites was the Johnathon Edwards episode. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/8 "2009-11-26T18:05:45Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > South Park has the ability to crank out a story while the issue is hot. Few shows can do that. They have done some great shows. One of my favorites was the Johnathon Edwards episode. The medium, the Presidential candidate, or the Puritan preacher? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/9 "2009-11-26T18:06:09Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > The medium, the Presidential candidate, or the Puritan preacher? The first. He was the biggest douche in the universe. ---
**Author:** ![Meltdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Meltdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meltdown)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/10 "2009-11-26T18:11:24Z")
> [@cckerberos](#): > > I wouldn’t be at all surprised if South Park is just something they do for the money at this point. They only do half seasons and the show is off the air for 8 months of of the year. If they still found doing the show invigorating, they’d be making more episodes. I’m not sure I get this criticism. If they were only doing it for the money, wouldn’t they do more episodes per year? Shows like Dexter and Mad Men do even less episodes per year than South Park – do you find them creatively bankrupt as well? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/11 "2009-11-26T20:59:28Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > They don’t have a team of writers now? I always figured that eventually they got more writers than just Matt and Trey. But if not…well, good for them. I understand they have a porpoise in a tank full of balls inscribed with fragments of smug libertarian screeds, volumes of _Truly Tasteless Jokes_ from the '80s, Youtube comments, and ratings Butt-hurt. This porpoise produces treatments for 1/3 of their episodes. It’s not hard to spot which ones. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/12 "2009-11-26T23:08:25Z")
Yeah, episodes like Pee and Fish Sticks were pretty lame, but I wouldn’t say it’s jumped the shark quite yet. I’d still much rather watch it than current episodes of the Simpsons. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-south-park-dead/519021/13 "2009-11-27T02:22:16Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > The first. He was the biggest douche in the universe. If he was a medium how could he be the largest ?