# Is Ted Stevens toast?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 21, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851 "2008-10-21T03:17:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/141 "2008-11-03T03:36:40Z")

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Nate Silver has Stevens’ chances of winning re-election at 0% today, so I think he has now officially gone down the tubes.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/142 "2008-11-03T17:08:59Z")

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He’s going on local TV stations with a 2-minute spot tonight, begging for his job. Jebus Ted: have some fookin’ dignity, man…

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/143 "2008-11-03T17:27:16Z")

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I think that horse done left the barn…🙂

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/144 "2008-11-03T18:23:03Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Apparently [Harry Reid](http://www.rollcall.com/news/29690-1.html) didn’t get that memo…

Which is why it is a story.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/145 "2008-11-03T19:02:49Z")

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::sigh::

So, what happens now that it has come out that Juror #4 is a [crazy-assed liar](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_go_ot/stevens_trial)?

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/146 "2008-11-03T19:06:48Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> So, what happens now that it has come out that Juror #4 is a [crazy-assed liar](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_go_ot/stevens_trial)?

More was crazy than her ass.

> [@](#):
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> She apologized for lying, and then started a long rambling story about horses, which included references to horse breeding, the Breeders’ Cup, drugs, President Ford’s son Steven and her condo in Florida being bugged.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/147 "2008-11-03T19:07:42Z")

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She was replaced I think so did not vote in the decision. But it might give Stevens lawyers some fodder to complain about. Whether they can ask for a new trial on that basis ,I do not know. She acts like she was paid off.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/148 "2008-11-03T19:08:44Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> ::sigh::
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> So, what happens now that it has come out that Juror #4 is a [crazy-assed liar](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_go_ot/stevens_trial)?

Hoperfully nothing changes. The juror was kicked out very early in deliberations, an alternate was picked, and the jury was instructed to begin deliberations again.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/149 "2008-11-03T19:25:55Z")

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:smack:

I realized she had been replaced a few minutes after I posted, but work interfered (hate it when that happens), and I couldn’t get back to edit…

But still, I’m impressed that she was able to supress the crazy long enough to get seated on _that_ jury…

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/150 "2008-11-03T20:19:10Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> :smack:
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> I realized she had been replaced a few minutes after I posted, but work interfered (hate it when that happens), and I couldn’t get back to edit…
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> But still, I’m impressed that she was able to supress the crazy long enough to get seated on _that_ jury…

They keep saying things are different in Alaska. Maybe that’s pretty normal.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/151 "2008-11-03T22:12:43Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> They keep saying things are different in Alaska. Maybe that’s pretty normal.

You DO realize that the trial was held in WDC, right?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/152 "2008-11-04T02:33:43Z")

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Oh. Well, **I** used to live in DC. That kind of behavior behavior isn’t even worth raising an eyebrow over.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/153 "2008-11-04T13:33:03Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> More was crazy than her ass.

I liked this part:

> [@](#):
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> “I am thoroughly convinced you would not have been able to continue to deliberate,” [U.S. District Judge Emmet] Sullivan interrupted.
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> “Can I have a case of my own?” Hinnant asked.

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**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/154 "2008-11-04T17:31:46Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> ::sigh::
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> So, what happens now that it has come out that Juror #4 is a [crazy-assed liar](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_go_ot/stevens_trial)?

Well, they promised him a jury of his peers. . .

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/155 "2008-11-04T17:33:17Z")

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Whoa! I _felt_ that rimshot!

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/156 "2008-11-04T17:58:21Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Whoa! I _felt_ that rimshot!

Nope…not going to touch that one… 😃

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/157 "2008-11-04T18:36:46Z")

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Did she commit a crime?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/158 "2008-11-04T19:20:44Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Did she commit a crime?

By lying to the court officials about her father (so she could go play w/ponies), is most likely a contempt of court charge.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/159 "2008-11-05T03:59:39Z")

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I do not think the judge wants to deal with her. She seems to be nuts.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-ted-stevens-toast/468851/160 "2008-11-05T04:55:13Z")

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[538.com](http://538.com) is projecting Ted Stevens has been flushed down the tubes.

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