# Is that a Bagel in your Forehead, or are you just happy to see me? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 27, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997 "2012-09-27T11:54:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/21 "2012-09-27T18:36:11Z")
> [@Filbert](#): > > Obviously a Klingon conspiracy- get their minions to accustom us to the forehead swellings, then soon, their masters will be able to sneak amongst us unnoticed… I would **not** be surprised if there were some obscure _Star Trek_ race that looked like this, from like 1 issue of an 80s comic. And [amateurs](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100610202805/simpsons/images/f/f1/Donut_Homer.jpg). This needs to be restated: Japan is weird. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/22 "2012-09-27T18:46:43Z")
_Are you thinking really hard? Because I see ripples on your pond._ ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/23 "2012-09-27T18:49:10Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I want to pop it. With a big knife. This, only I was thinking with my knitting needle. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/24 "2012-09-27T18:52:13Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I would **not** be surprised if there were some obscure _Star Trek_ race that looked like this, from like 1 issue of an 80s comic. > > And [amateurs](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100610202805/simpsons/images/f/f1/Donut_Homer.jpg). > > This needs to be restated: Japan is weird. They’re still years behind the [US prison community](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=273825&highlight=bagel). ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/25 "2012-09-27T20:42:18Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I want to stop the ones who want prosthetic foreheads on their heads. But can we agree that everybody wants a rock to wind a piece of string around? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/26 "2012-09-27T23:05:08Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > They’re still years behind the [US prison community](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=273825&highlight=bagel). I was just thinking that a Qadgop reference is conspicuously missing. ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/27 "2012-09-28T04:57:30Z")
Dear Japan, WTF? Sincerely, The Rest Of The World XOXO ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/28 "2012-09-28T12:27:21Z")
Which layers of skin is it injected in? Is it just above the bone? Why doesn’t it flow away? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/29 "2012-09-28T13:16:23Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > The one good thing is it isn’t permanent. That’s a good thing? Really? I kind of wish it was permanent. That way we could tell who the idiot hipsters are among us. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/30 "2012-09-28T14:45:36Z")
_Son, you got a tsunami on your head._ ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/31 "2012-09-28T14:50:58Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > _Son, you got a tsunami on your head._ And now I’ve gotta go watch Raising Arizona again. 😛 BTW, I remember seeing these pics, or ones like them, at least a couple-few years ago. I was HOPING it’d just die away; wonder wth brought it out into daylight again? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/32 "2012-09-28T15:14:28Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > This needs to be restated: Japan is weird. At least they’re not wearing [grills](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grill_(jewelry)). (Link to Wiki page.) ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/33 "2012-09-28T15:40:09Z")
Bagels? Grills? I’m sensing a theme here. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/34 "2012-09-28T17:16:27Z")
> [@AaronX](#): > > Which layers of skin is it injected in? Is it just above the bone? Why doesn’t it flow away? There’s a thin layer of muscle and fatty tissue in the forehead that is infused with saline. Think of it as a sponge soaking up water. It isn’t just an open pocket of fluid there. Then it is absorbed into the bloodstream and carried away over about 24 hours. I really can’t see it not having some deleterious effect for someone who does it frequently over an extended period of time. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/35 "2012-09-28T18:55:45Z")
I used to have a cat in chronic renal failure. Part of her treatment was to have 200 CC of subcutaneous saline administered about every 3 days. She’d get a large lump in her side after I gave the saline (which she was fine about - never minded the needle or the fluids). In about 12 hours, the fluids had been absorbed. She never had any side effects. It’s just sterile fluid. I’ve seen programs where they insert balloons and expand them with fluid to stretch skin if they’re going to need to do skin grafts. That would be very different, though. StG ---
**Author:** ![Sleel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@Sleel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleel)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/36 "2012-09-29T00:20:45Z")
There’s no link to the source, but the pictures look like stills from one of those 3:00 in the morning type shows that have a budget funded by pocket change and feature seriously odd shit in an attempt to capture the attention of a minuscule insomniac audience. And by seriously odd, I mean odd by Japanese standards. Believe me, I’m one of the first to point and laugh at Japanese weirdness, and I sometimes get first dibs since I live here, but this “trend” is about as mainstream as the stuff you see on BME. (VERY NSFW, even with Safe Search on.) ---
**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/37 "2012-09-29T05:46:03Z")
Ok, I thought it was like a blister or something. Also, wouldn’t the indentation fill out quite fast, like in a few seconds? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/38 "2012-09-30T06:12:54Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > … but it’s the first non-fetish use I’ve heard of… This is non-fetish? Does there have to be handcuffs or flogging to make it fetish? Og knows what’s being stuck into those holes while they last. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/39 "2012-09-30T19:45:45Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > This is non-fetish? Does there have to be handcuffs or flogging to make it fetish? > > Og knows what’s being stuck into those holes while they last. While I’ll grant that damned near anything can be made the object of a fetish or used for sexual purposes, or viewed in a sexual way, it would be an uphill battle to convince me that forehead modification of this sort falls into that category. Whereas it’s hard to see the temporary breast augmentation or scrotum inflation in any other way. The Forehead Bagel is too obvious, too public, and too far removed from what most people consider sexual to be an obvious candidate for this. It’s more likr Temporary Tattoos for the not-quite-Body Mod crowd. Wouldn’t surprise me to see some Trekkies going Klingon with this at a convention, though. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997/40 "2012-09-30T20:03:37Z")
I can’t believe that no one in this thread has brought up this [Funny or Die](http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5a52180b80/forehead-tittaes-w-marion-cotillard) routine… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-that-a-bagel-in-your-forehead-or-are-you-just-happy-to-see-me/635997.md?page=3)