It sure looks like a woman. Knowing what we know about Da Vinci we can’t rule out it is John or Mary.
There are twelve Apostles, all named, all male. In the painting (fresco), there is Jesus and twelve others. If one of them is Mary Magdalene, then why are there only 11 apostles? What happened to one of them?
Peace.
“Steak? Judas, how can you afford steak?”
Da Vinci was gay?
If anyone wants a relatively high res image of the last supper click on the thumbnail found in the link below.
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/L/leonardo/lastsupp.jpg.html
I have to admit it looks like a woman to Jesus’ right, but then again, Jesus looks kind of womanly as well.
It’s great fun when ancient history is twisted into metaphor and then into art and from there into fact and now into a fiction novel.
Wheeeeeeeeeeee!
The hand with the knife quite obviously belongs to the guy in the blue robe and the white beard who has his hand on John/Mary’s shoulder. He has his hand on his hip with his thumb pointed backwards. I have a print of the painting in my kitchen and there’s no mystery at all when you see any kind of enlarged image. The wrist of the hand disappears into the sleeve of the guy’s blue robe. The hand is at a slightly awkward angle but it’s definitely his hand.
As to the OP, I don’t think it’s a woman, just somewhat of a feminized young male. DaVinci was rumored to have a fondness for that type if you know what I mean.
Do we know who the other 11 are? I mean, obviously they’re the other 11 apostles, but do we know which is which?
For five hundred years people have looked at a painting of the twelve apostles and seen twelve apostles there.
Then a charlatan comes along with an admitted book of fiction containing what every expert says is an extremely bad hodgepodge of fake history and half the population suddenly believes in a conspiracy despite all rational protestations.
Don’t tell me there is no such thing as mass hysteria. We’re seeing it here with our own eyes.
Another page for the site alterego linked to above has the best assumptions labeled. Click on the thumbnail here .
It is pretty well accepted that Leonardo Da Vinci was a homosexual.
Like alterego says, Jesus himself doesn’t look especially masculine in that painting, so it’s not a stretch to think that a really young guy might look rather effeminate.
The second guy from the left (ID’d as James Minor in the link above) looks somewhat girly too.
What I don’t understand is, even if Da Vinci painted a woman in the painting, why should that matter? Let’s say Da Vinci made it up to annoy people, or had an unconventional interpretation of the event, or whatever. Why should that have any major impact (or any impact at all) on our understanding of the actual event?
Surely no one here thinks the painting is an actual representation of an event which may or may not have ever even occurred.
Exactly. So what, exactly, does Dan Brown think this proves, if it is true?
It doesn’t. But if any of the figures is a woman, then one of the apostles is missing.
That’s no woman. It’s clearly a ghost. Just look at the period clothing!
Another interesting thing is that Dan Brown pointed out that there was a “V” shape between Jesus and Mary-John. He said that that represented the “Holy Grail.” However, there are 3 different v-gaps in the painting. :rolleyes:
He thinks it proves to be 4,300,000 copies in hardcover and an Amazon sales rank of 1.
It proves to be an:
Audio Cassette (Abridged) |
Audio Cassette (Unabridged) |
Audio CD (Abridged) |
Audio CD (Unabridged) |
Hardcover (Large Print) |
e-book (Microsoft Reader) | and
e-book (Adobe Reader) editions.
It proves that truly massive paperback editions are forthcoming.
It proves you will never go broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
That’s proof enough for me.