# Is the animated "Teen Titans" Robin Dick Grayson? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 31, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684 "2004-07-31T01:43:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/21 "2015-02-03T02:47:20Z")
ThePunisher, I’ve taken the link out of your post, as it pretty much looks like you only registered to spam your own channel. If you do this again, you’ll probably be banned as a spammer. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/22 "2015-02-03T03:06:06Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Your memory is correct, **lachesis**. > > And it pains me to say that, as I am now tacitly admitting that I watch this cartoon, even though its animation style irritates me to death. > [@lachesis](#): > > i know how you feel, **JThunder**. the ultra-anime inserts can get a bit cringe-worthy. but we sigh, and take what we can get. No idea if you two are still around, but if so, I wonder if you like the current version any better. … ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/23 "2015-02-04T00:40:34Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > IIRC, Tim Drake’s parents are still alive. His mom was killed by some villain, and his dad badly injured, shortly after he became Robin, so he had to stay with Bruce while his dad recuperated. Then they lived next door to Wayne manor for a while (I think), before moving to the city. Then Tim went to boarding school for a while (Alfred went along with him posing as his valet). Then DC went to shit and killed off Tim’s dad for shock value in one of it’s increasingly ridic company wide events. Then the whole thing got rebooted. At least twice. Does Tim even exist now? Maybe he’s a zombie. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/24 "2015-02-04T01:27:19Z")
I have nothing to add. Except [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJawDkalYi0) (not great video quality). ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/25 "2015-02-04T03:21:18Z")
It’s really weird to see ancient posts like this. Oddly, I still like this show from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![ainzee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@ainzee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ainzee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/26 "2015-03-18T22:17:11Z")
its dick grayson. as is known, he becomes nightwing in the future. but the strongest evidence is that in the episode where robin hallucinates about slade (aka slide “deathstroke” wilson), raven looks into his head and there is brief scene of trapeze artists falling off of a trapeze. this is an instance known to happen only to dick grayson, as his parents, the flying graysons, were killed when a mob boss put acid on the trapeze ropes, causing them to fall to their deaths. also, in the episode with his clone larry, he originally calls himself nosyarg kcid, which is dick grayson spelled backwards. also, it doesn’t necessarily matter what time the story takes place, because if all shows and movies took place when the comics came out, the amazing spiderman two would take place in the 70s, not 2014 ---
**Author:** ![ainzee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@ainzee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ainzee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/27 "2015-03-18T22:27:08Z")
ok… ---
**Author:** ![ainzee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@ainzee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ainzee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684/28 "2015-03-18T22:29:47Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Except that makes it a universe all its own, unrelated to the rest of the DC cartoons - which make the reference to it in the Justice League/Static Shock crossover strange, at best. > > You’re arguing at cross-purposes here, actually. First you mention (rightly) that the cartoon is out of continuity for the comics. Then you mention (correctly) that in the comics, it was Dick that had a romance with Starfire. > > However, as you’ve already stated, the TT cartoon doesn’t follow the comics, so there’s no reason the Robin/Starfire romance couldn’t be used without reverting Robin to Dick. > > Yes, the TT cartoon is incongruous to the comics - all the cartoons are. > > Some Batman related examples (I know Superman had some, but I can’t think of them, ATM, and even beginning to list how Justice League diverges from comic canon would take way too long.): > > Batman skipped the Jason Todd Robin, going straight from Dick to Tim. > > Dick was never Robin when he was in his early teens. (He appears to be about 18 when he first appears.) > > Barbara Gordon was still Batgirl last we saw her in the present, and, based on Beyond, is not going to be crippled in the future of the animated DCU. > > Some major, non-debatable, diversions in TT: > > The Teen Titans didn’t start as a group of sidekicks. > > Speedy and Aqualad weren’t original members. (I don’t think Kid Flash even exists in the animated universe. If they do introduce him, no doubt it’ll be Bart, since the JL flash seems to be Wally.) > > And a general one: > > Static Shock and the Justice League both exist in the same universe. > > OK, so…the various cartoons are out of comics canon. You’ll have to find some good indicators that the TT cartoon is out of the animated continuity for it to be Dick, since the current Robin in the animated universe (the one Batman mentioned had joined the Titans in the JL/SS x-over) is Tim. also, WRONG. WALLY FRICKIN WEST. SCREW YOUR LOGIC. This show has very obviously hinted towards dick grayson, as mentioned in the earlier comment i made. if you fail to see that robin is dick grayson, then you might as well tell me slide isn’t death stroke, or jericho isn’t joseph wilson, son of death stroke, who lost his voice in the same incident where deathstroke lost his eye. goodbye, just remember robins copy isn’t named ekard mit. his name is NOSYARG KCID [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-animated-teen-titans-robin-dick-grayson/257684.md?page=1)