# Is the bible true/god real?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 27, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679 "2013-07-27T17:00:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/41 "2013-07-27T23:25:10Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> That’s kinda sad. When did you become such a defeatist?

Perish the thought! For me, it started with the Bible (Have you read it?). But I thought, maybe for some time there was still come other kind of God. But eventually, those thoughts went away too. Nothing to be sad about, I live a damn good happy life, and am surrounded with loved ones who share similar thoughts as I, and some who don’t, but that is okay too.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/42 "2013-07-27T23:39:45Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Is truth unchanging law?

We both have truths.  
Are mine the same as yours?

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**Author:** ![Buffalo\_Bilious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Buffalo\_Bilious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffalo_Bilious)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/43 "2013-07-27T23:43:31Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Facts exist irrespective of your particular beliefs surrounding them.

Yes. And facts can be circumspect relevant to issues that are otherwise debatable and generally considered as facts, but because they’re facts and you don’t like the facts, more research is needed.

Because obviously we need to redefine the facts, if for no other reason than to keep us from jumping off a bridge.

How am I doin?

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**Author:** ![Rocky\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Rocky\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocky_Dog)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/44 "2013-07-27T23:43:50Z")

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Yes and Yes!

I find it interesting that most belivers just replied yes and yes. The nonbelivers felt that they had to explain why

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/45 "2013-07-27T23:50:22Z")

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> [@Rocky\_Dog](#):
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> Yes and Yes!
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> I find it interesting that most belivers just replied yes and yes. The nonbelivers felt that they had to explain why

I would _love_ to hear an explanation from believers. Especially one that makes sense.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/46 "2013-07-28T00:00:57Z")

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The Bible is mostly myths and the opinions of Iron age primitives. God is an impossibility; blatant nonsense like Santa Claus except much more evil and even less plausible than Claus is.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/47 "2013-07-28T00:03:05Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Yes. And facts can be circumspect relevant to issues that are otherwise debatable and generally considered as facts, but because they’re facts and you don’t like the facts, more research is needed.
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> Because obviously we need to redefine the facts, if for no other reason than to keep us from jumping off a bridge.
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> How am I doin?

Not well at all really - come back when you’ve read up on the topic.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/48 "2013-07-28T00:05:11Z")

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No and no.

Up yours, **Rocky Dog**.

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**Author:** ![Buffalo\_Bilious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Buffalo\_Bilious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffalo_Bilious)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/49 "2013-07-28T00:11:07Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I would _love_ to hear an explanation from believers. Especially one that makes sense.

Ya know what? We don’t owe you shit. It’s not my job to turn you into someone who believes in a higher power. If you think “religion” means getting a blumpkin on Sunday morning, then fine, no prob.

But stop the general attack against those who choose to believe. It always comes off to me as pure pettiness… kind of a “sour grapes” thing.

Why is there such a fervor to denigrate or deny a God?

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**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/50 "2013-07-28T00:11:18Z")

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> [@Rocky\_Dog](#):
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> I find it interesting that most belivers just replied yes and yes. The nonbelivers felt that they had to explain why

Doesn’t surprise me at all. If you apply reason and logic to the question, the unavoidable answer is no. The flat “yes and yes” answer is indicative of unquestioning acceptance, whether it makes any sense or not.

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**Author:** ![Buffalo\_Bilious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Buffalo\_Bilious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffalo_Bilious)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/51 "2013-07-28T00:15:14Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> Not well at all really - come back when you’ve read up on the topic.

Hmm… You obviously don’t have the capacity for circumspection.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/52 "2013-07-28T00:22:17Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Yes. And facts can be circumspect relevant to issues that are otherwise debatable and generally considered as facts, but because they’re facts and you don’t like the facts, more research is needed.

Facts such as?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/53 "2013-07-28T00:28:27Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Hmm… You obviously don’t have the capacity for circumspection.

cir·cum·spect  
/ˈsərkəmˌspekt/  
Adjective  
Wary and unwilling to take risks.  
Synonyms  
cautious - wary - prudent - careful - discreet  
I think you were looking for a different word here.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/54 "2013-07-28T00:35:28Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Why is there such a fervor to denigrate or deny a God?

Because the believers won’t leave the rest of us alone, and cause great harm to the world. _And_ because this thread asked our opinion; it doesn’t take much “fervor” to respond to a question.

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**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/55 "2013-07-28T00:44:33Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Ya know what? We don’t owe you shit. It’s not my job to turn you into someone who believes in a higher power.

Someone remarks it would be nice if some believers would explain, and this is how you react? Your religion has certainly worked for you, eh?

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**Author:** ![Buffalo\_Bilious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Buffalo\_Bilious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffalo_Bilious)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/56 "2013-07-28T00:58:01Z")

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> [@razncain](#):
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> Someone remarks it would be nice if some believers would explain, and this is how you react? Your religion has certainly worked for you, eh?

Yes, it has.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/57 "2013-07-28T00:58:15Z")

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> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Hmm… You obviously don’t have the capacity for circumspection.

I don’t think that word means what you think it means - or applies to what you think it does.

Come back when you’ve read up on things a bit.

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**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/58 "2013-07-28T01:01:28Z")

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No.

No.

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**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/59 "2013-07-28T01:08:24Z")

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> [@Rocky\_Dog](#):
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> Yes and Yes!
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> I find it interesting that most belivers just replied yes and yes. The nonbelivers felt that they had to explain why

Because this would be a really boring ass thread if people only answered yes and no.

For me, it’s no and no. No explanation necessary because we don’t owe anymore shit either.

> [@Buffalo\_Bilious](#):
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> Yes, it has.

Obviously.

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**Author:** ![Buffalo\_Bilious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e99b99/32.png) [@Buffalo\_Bilious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buffalo_Bilious)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-bible-true-god-real/664679/60 "2013-07-28T01:09:29Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> I don’t think that word means what you think it means - or applies to what you think it does.
> 
> Come back when you’ve read up on things a bit.

For you dullard pedants, the words used in that reply were meant to be a mockery of the quote cited.

Oh, but you knew that, ay?

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