# Is the C-word allowed outside the Pit? {Answered: not in a misogynistic way or to insult. Not even with a letter changed}

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/1 "2022-02-11T18:13:44Z")

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Because it was certainly allowed [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895).

> [@Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene MUST GO](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congresswoman-marjorie-taylor-greene-must-go/931895/350):
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> I wish Pelosi would issue a sarcastic response. Take the qunt down a peg.

or is it that you can’t use the C-word but if you intentionally misspell it to make it the Q-word it’s ok?

Is there a definitive list of words that  
Cannot be used at all?  
Can only be used in the Pit?  
And does misspelling it to make it Not-The-Word ™ make it acceptable?

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/2 "2022-02-11T18:40:49Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> And does misspelling it to make it Not-The-Word ™ make it acceptable?

No. No it doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/3 "2022-02-11T18:48:37Z")

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Even back when there was a “bad word” list, didn’t it only apply when directed towards other posters?

Of course, other things/rules might be in play here like hate speech or misogynistic speech or something.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/4 "2022-02-11T19:05:03Z")

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I’m not a moderator. I would say it’s allowed outside of the Pit, but that usage is misogynistic and I would at least Note it if I were a moderator. I don’t think gendered insults are acceptable.

So, I would be opposed to calling a woman a harpy or a bitch as much as I would be opposed to calling her a cunt. Certainly outside the Pit, and, ideally, inside the Pit. Similarly, I would be opposed to calling a man a prick or a cuck.

Side note: There seem to be fewer gendered insults for men than women.

Did anyone report that post?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/5 "2022-02-11T21:36:52Z")

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It was reported and my take is that it was considered to be on par with “F@ck” or “Sh%t” or “N-Word”.

3 moderators looked at the report.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/6 "2022-02-11T21:48:50Z")

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And if it is then that’s their call. It just seemed strange (dare I say contradictory) that with all of the outrage about transphobia and misogyny that it would be allowed outside the Pit (and it wasn’t the British usage) and it looked like the spelling was engineered to get past the the censors.

So it is allowed to call a (non-SD member) woman a cunt outside of the Pit?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/7 "2022-02-11T22:35:51Z")

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It might be like”n-word,” but I hope that if someone used “n-word” to describe Barack Obama, they would be modded. Misspelling an ugly slur does not make it not an ugly slur.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/8 "2022-02-11T22:46:17Z")

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I disagree with the lack of moderation too. It’s not seeing the word “cunt” that drives people away from the board, it’s seeing misogynistic slurs used against women, spelled correctly or not.

If I told a poster to f@ck off and eat sh%t, I think I’d be rightly modded. You mods should rethink this one.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/9 "2022-02-11T22:52:31Z")

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If you told a POSTER. AFAIK Empty Greene doesn’t post here.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/10 "2022-02-11T23:01:48Z")

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I thought the issue about transphobia and misogyny was that it created a hostile board environment for some users whether directed against someone on or off the board.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/11 "2022-02-11T23:13:55Z")

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Shodan got banned for referring to an off-board woman as a harpy. Yet, since the target here is right wing politician she can be called a bitch, which I reported, or a cunt without even a note.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/12 "2022-02-11T23:16:18Z")

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When you’re right, you’re right.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/13 "2022-02-11T23:23:42Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> It’s not seeing the word “cunt” that drives people away from the board, it’s seeing misogynistic slurs used against women, spelled correctly or not.

Yepppp.

I had to add extra letters for Discourse.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/14 "2022-02-12T00:00:14Z")

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I’ll bump this up to the Mod Loop. We’ll probably not have an answer until Monday, but sometimes I’m surprised. _However, I’m fixing the title as it is misleading._

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/15 "2022-02-12T00:06:49Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> and it looked like the spelling was engineered to get past the the censors.

There aren’t censors on the boards. The spelling was engineered to associate her with the Q-anon crowd.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/16 "2022-02-12T00:18:57Z")

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I agree that the spelling doesn’t matter. It’s not about using a “bad word.”

It’s misogyny. It’s reducing a woman to a single body part to dismiss and insult her.

The person in question has so very many qualities to insult, it’s baffling why anyone would choose that slur.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/17 "2022-02-12T01:33:21Z")

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I’d be perfectly fine with the offender getting the ole ban bat.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/18 "2022-02-12T01:37:27Z")

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It will be at most a warning, probably just a modnote.

**Shodan** did not get banned for one word. That is ridiculous statement. He got banned for a long body of work, far too many warnings and that post was the one that finally ended his time on the board.

And I wasn’t part of the mod team when that happened I believe, but it was pretty obvious why he finally got the ban hammer.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/19 "2022-02-12T01:45:14Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I’ll bump this up to the Mod Loop. We’ll probably not have an answer until Monday, but sometimes I’m surprised. _However, I’m fixing the title as it is misleading._

I object to this! My title was accurate because MTG was called a cunt. Whether or not this is allowed is one question with the other being was it OK because a letter was changed. I believe you changing the title changes the whole context of the thread and that you should change it back.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-c-word-allowed-outside-the-pit-answered-not-in-a-misogynistic-way-or-to-insult-not-even-with-a-letter-changed/959325/20 "2022-02-12T01:48:11Z")

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No, she was not. You misrepresented what happened. _Qunt_ was what was written.

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