Is the Chinese Economy About to Collapse?

[E-Sabbath]

@BrainGlutton

Civil or foreign?

Million dollar question, that one.

[msmith537]

@E-Sabbath

I wasn’t talking about overpopulation. I was talking about the male/female disparity issue… combined with the ‘young king’ syndrome. You’re going to have a load and a half of young alpha males who have to compete with each other to find women, and thanks to the age-dominance factor, nowhere to go for decades to come.

Smells like a recipie for war to me.

China wants our women!!

I imagine a China where a large percentage of young men have little chance of meeting a woman, let alone getting married would cause a lot of internal problems. Basically I imagine an entire country essentially becoming a frat sausage party with the accompanying alchohol and substance abuse and violence.

I don’t imagine war, but there could be issues like brain drain as the best and brightest migrate elsewhere to find women. Or they might be forced to provide incentives for women to come to China which I imagine would be somewhat of a cultural shift.

[mazinger_z]

@jimmmy

I would add to this excellent post that approximately half of the U.S. debt is held outside the United States, primarily by China, (but also Japan and Southeast Asian nations.)

I agree with the rest of your post, but I would like a cite for the quoted above. The best I could find was that in 2005, about 22.5% of the US debt is owned by foreigners. I read somewhere else that Canada and UK were buying US T-bills right up there along with the Chinese and APAC.

[jimmmy]

@mazinger_z

I agree with the rest of your post, but I would like a cite for the quoted above. The best I could find was that in 2005, about 22.5% of the US debt is owned by foreigners. I read somewhere else that Canada and UK were buying US T-bills right up there along with the Chinese and APAC.

Well it depends on what you mean by the “Debt” (and I am not trying to quibble because you will see later I recognize my post needs tightening) . If you include Social Security Trust funds, Then yes about 22% is held by foreigners.

If you are just talking about T-Bills and other modes of debt, not including the Social Security Trust funds, in July (the last data available) U.S. Citizens hold about 2536 Billion and foreigners held about 2102 billion - or about 46% of the Total.

Of that 46%:
Japan, China, Taiwan, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore and Thailand Hold about 59% of the foreign debt or:

26% of the Total U.S. “Debt” (outside the Trust Funds)

Meaning

• approximately half of the U.S. debt is held outside the United States, primarily by China, (but also Japan and Southeast Asian nations.*

is better stated in bold new is underlined:

46% (I said approximately half - but lets be precise)** of the U.S. debt is held outside the United States**, **if you are not including the Social Security Trust funds and only talking about T-Bill and other direct investment modes ** (I said primarily by China, whicjh is a distant no.2) [U]Primarily by Japan but also China and Southeast Asian nations.
Better?