# Is the Christian Trinity Incoherent?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 16, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-christian-trinity-incoherent/521422 "2009-12-16T00:22:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-christian-trinity-incoherent/521422/79 "2009-12-17T03:53:59Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> And – if I’m being honest – I of course find your interpretation of monotheism and Christianity to be downright offensive, along with your personality; I’m offended by your asinine comments about Judaism, which IMHO should never, _ **ever** _ be equated with Christianity when it comes to monotheism.
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> But, as per the “IMHO”, that’s just my opinion; I’d never kick off a round of personal insults because of it. I don’t know why you decided to introduce insults; I truly _ **do** _ find your claims asinine and offensive, but that’s not enough for me to ratchet up the vitriol. I’m likewise happy to keep responding in kind, but isn’t it better for both of us to cool down and stow our respective offense while sticking to a discussion the claims?
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> Here, I’ll give it a shot:
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> False.
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> Also false.
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> I’m not following you here; this isn’t about time travel any more than it’s about talking to himself. I’m fine with a Jesus who talks to himself; I merely object to a Jesus who talks to himself and says “let not my will but your will be done”. Jesus, _ **right then,** _ is talking to the Father _ **right then** _ about what each of them is willing; no mention of going back and forth in time is offered or required, any more than when one asks the other to forgive people or cries out about why the other has forsaken him.
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> You say it’s “no more incoherent than believing that God stopped the sun for a day or created the earth in seven days”. Why? No such use of power calls for a mystery that can’t be understood; they may well be tremendous, and may well be hard to believe – but they’re easy to understand, sure as they’re entirely compatible with monotheism. (Would the OP have gotten any traction upon asking whether the claim about stopping the sun or creating the earth involves an incoherent belief?)

Your comments are disgustingly bigoted. Frankly I don’t know whether you are being honest, nor do I care.

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