# Is the Democratic Party "anti-God", and what can they do to stop that stereotype? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 31, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770 "2016-01-31T18:38:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/61 "2016-01-31T19:39:23Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > What I am trying to say, Dr. Drake, is that some Americans, feel that the Obama Democratic Party is\*\* pushing gay marriage on the country\*\*, and in schools. Some people are not a fan of it. Some feel that they will push lesbian and gay politicians like Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) and Jared Polis (D-Colo.) to run for president, vice president, etc. Some Americans do not like that. They don’t want to be hearing about these people. Let us know when your wedding is and who you’re forced to marry. And where you’re registered. And as far as the schools are concerned, it’s teaching respect for other life styles that affect you not in the least. Something you might want to learn. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/62 "2016-01-31T19:39:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > We’re listening to them. > > And we’re telling them that they are wrong. I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/63 "2016-01-31T19:41:19Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > You may have a point, but do you see the depravity of today’s culture? You see the filth in our country, our military, strange people entering our military, right? Did you serve? I did. I’m an atheist who entered the military out of patriotism and a desire to better myself. From what I gather, you know nothing about atheists except what you hear from bigots who believe atheists and atheism are inferior and evil. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/64 "2016-01-31T19:42:20Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. Let them move, then! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/65 "2016-01-31T19:43:41Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. Some Americans don’t want to be near black people. Does that “need to be respected”? Some Americans want to expel all Muslims from the country. Does that “need to be respected”? Some Americans think the federal government has no authority and that they can seize control of public land by force of arms with impunity. Does that “need to be respected”? Not every belief needs to be respected - in fact, some of them ought to be actively and explicitly _disrespected_, because they are toxic and harmful to the prosperity and advancement of a free and peaceful society. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/66 "2016-01-31T19:44:46Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. Some Americans don’t want to be near black people. Does that “need to be respected”? Some Americans want to expel all Muslims from the country. Does that “need to be respected”? Some Americans think the federal government has no authority and that they can seize control of public land by force of arms with impunity. Does that “need to be respected”? Not every belief needs to be respected - in fact, some of them ought to be actively and explicitly _disrespected_, because they are toxic and harmful to the prosperity and advancement of a free and peaceful society. (You will note that **iiandyiiii** and I are in full agreement on this topic. This should really tell you something.) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/67 "2016-01-31T19:47:42Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. Sometimes a wish is not granted in the way the wishee desired. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/68 "2016-01-31T19:50:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Did you serve? I did. I’m an atheist who entered the military out of patriotism and a desire to better myself. From what I gather, you know nothing about atheists except what you hear from bigots who believe atheists and atheism are inferior and evil. Thank you for your service. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/69 "2016-01-31T19:50:59Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Let them move, then! Yeah, they are shit out of luck. You need to be a millionaire to live in Manhattan these days, and Brooklyn is filling up quick. All those homosexual college grads with fancy Ivy degrees and great new jobs will be flooding into Queens and Staten Island soon enough! When your friends see their new neighbors mincing down Astoria Boulevard, opening boutiques and cocktail lounges and fancy coffee shops and dildo stores, they’ll snap faster than dry firewood. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/70 "2016-01-31T19:53:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Some Americans don’t want to be near black people. Does that “need to be respected”? > > Some Americans want to expel all Muslims from the country. Does that “need to be respected”? > > Some Americans think the federal government has no authority and that they can seize control of public land by force of arms with impunity. Does that “need to be respected”? > > Not every belief needs to be respected - in fact, some of them ought to be actively and explicitly _disrespected_, because they are toxic and harmful to the prosperity and advancement of a free and peaceful society. I get that. However, on the Muslims thing, it’s a reaction to Paris, San Bernandino, and 9/11. Have you not forgot what happened on that day? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/71 "2016-01-31T19:57:56Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. No it doesn’t. Why should anyone respect the opinions of these halfwit bigots you surround yourself with? Why do you even hang out with these assholes in the first place? Find a better class of friend. The ones you have now are trash. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/72 "2016-01-31T20:00:20Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > However, on the Muslims thing, it’s a reaction to Paris, San Bernandino, and 9/11. Have you not forgot what happened on that day? I remember what happened on that day, and it was committed by a small handful of extremists whose idealogy was in no way comparable to those the overwhelming majority of Muslims, in the US or worldwide. Would you be comfortable with expelling all Christians from the US because of the actions of Eric Rudolph, or the Bundys, or the KKK? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/73 "2016-01-31T20:01:06Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I get that. However, on the Muslims thing, it’s a reaction to Paris, San Bernandino, and 9/11. Have you not forgot what happened on that day? I visited London with my family in 1985. I was overwhelmed how many Muslims wearing burkas I saw. I found it strange then. I find it strange now, mainly as poor-styled fashion, but I don’t think that someone who wears one is going to shoot me or blow up a building. Is that how you feel when you see Muslims dressed in traditional clothes? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/74 "2016-01-31T20:01:53Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I remember what happened on that day, and it was committed by a small handful of extremists whose idealogy was in no way comparable to those the overwhelming majority of Muslims, in the US or worldwide. > > Would you be comfortable with expelling all Christians from the US because of the actions of Eric Rudolph, or the Bundys, or the KKK? I understand that, but name one product or thing in the U.S. that Muslims have created or done to make America a better place. Name one Muslim celebrity or singer that changed America. Name one thing. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/75 "2016-01-31T20:03:05Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I visited London with my family in 1985. I was overwhelmed how many Muslims wearing burkas I saw. I found it strange then. I find it strange now, mainly as poor-styled fashion, but I don’t think that someone who wears one is going to shoot me or blow up a building. > > Is that how you feel when you see Muslims dressed in traditional clothes? No, I don’t. The actions of Daesh makes it seem so to a lot of Americans. They have not done anything to make America better. Have you seen a Muslim-American Army general? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/76 "2016-01-31T20:03:57Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that. However, they don’t want to be near them. That needs to be respected as well. Near who? Gay atheist members of the military? That’s easy: don’t invite 'em over for dinner. I don’t need to respect that. Frankly, I’d think less of one of my friends that held views like that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/77 "2016-01-31T20:06:31Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that, but name one product or thing in the U.S. that Muslims have created or done to make America a better place. The Sears Tower was designed by a Muslim architect. > [@](#): > > Name one Muslim celebrity or singer that changed America. Dave Chappelle. Mike Tyson. Muhammed Ali. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Reza Azlan. Shaquille O’Neal. I could go on. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/78 "2016-01-31T20:07:51Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > No, I don’t. The actions of Daesh makes it seem so to a lot of Americans. They have not done anything to make America better. Have you seen a Muslim-American Army general? Why a general? [Thousands have served the US for centuries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_in_the_United_States_military): > [@](#): > > “Muslims have fought in all major US wars including the American Civil War, World War I, World War II, and the Vietnam War.[1] More recently they have served in Gulf War, Iraq War, and the War in Afghanistan. > On December 14, 1993, the Army Chief of Chaplains requested that an insignia be created to represent Muslim chaplains, and the design (a crescent) was completed January 8, 1993.[2] > In 2011 there were approximately 3500 American Muslims serving in the United States military.” ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/79 "2016-01-31T20:07:54Z")
Youtube, the tallest building in the world for forty years, and the Wu-Tang Klan. Could you answer whether you think that people that don’t think black people should have equal protection under the law should also be respected? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/80 "2016-01-31T20:10:40Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Values. Hard work. Going to school, having an education. Building on society. Believing in marriage and what it comes with it. I am an independent, but I am a Christian as well. I don’t believe in mocking God as Bill Maher does. GloryDays, I fear you are mistaken both about atheism and Christianity. Christ said nothing about hard work, going to school, building on society. He said the world was about to end, and you should give away all your possessions and follow Him. He did support marriage. Atheists believe that this life is the only one we get, so it matters. And so atheists care a great deal about building on society, and improving this world. And they (mostly) believe in education and hard work to do it. I’m rather surprised that more Christian churches don’t back the liberals. It is the liberals (mostly Democrats) who believe we have an obligation to feed and clothe the poor, as Jesus taught. And to love all men and women as our brothers and sisters. Many churches were instrumental in the civil rights movement. I’m not sure how the Republicans managed to convince such a large swath of the electorate that they are the party of God, since it seems obvious to me that the war-mongers and benefit-slashers are on the other side. Maybe it’s all because of sex. The Democrats are more often the party to leave personal matters behind closed doors, and live and let live. But Jesus talked about our obligation to the poor an awful lot more than he talked about sexually immorality. You might want to go back and re-read the gospels. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770.md?page=5)