# Is the Democratic Party "anti-God", and what can they do to stop that stereotype? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 31, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770 "2016-01-31T18:38:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/81 "2016-01-31T20:10:58Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Have you seen a Muslim-American Army general? [Is a colonel with 27 years of service, who served with distinction in Afghanistan, good enough for you?](http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/12/local/me-muslims12) > [@](#): > > Retired Col. Doug Burpee, a Muslim convert who flew helicopters for the Marines for 27 years and completed a seven-month deployment to Afghanistan in 2004, said he encountered good-natured ribbing about his faith, which he would laugh away. Some in his squadron called him “rag head” or joked that he would be rewarded with 70 virgins in heaven if he died in a helicopter accident, but he didn’t take it seriously. > > When fellow Marines made comments about Muslims waging a holy war against nonbelievers, however, Burpee used the incidents to teach others about his faith. > > “Islam is not about any of those things,” he recalled telling them. “It’s about believing in God.” And what’s more American than believing in God, right? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/82 "2016-01-31T20:11:06Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that, but name one product or thing in the U.S. that Muslims have created or done to make America a better place. The Muslims I know do pretty much the same thing most of us do to make America a better place: work, take care of their families, try and raise their kids right, participate in society. What more do you want? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/83 "2016-01-31T20:11:57Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Work values. Ethics. Most atheists do not. They are seen as leeches, losers, haters, parasites, people who want to suck the country dry. This is one of the most uninformed statements I have seen made on these boards in a long long time. The only thing that might rival it is what you have posted about gay people. So in your world Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are leeches, losers, parasites and people who want to suck the country dry? How about Penn Jillette, Richard Dawkins, Bill Nye, Dave Matthews, Phil Donahue, Billy Joel, James Randi, Ron Reagan, Clarence Darrow, Jesse Ventura, Andrew Carnegie and Mark Zuckerberg? Because every single one of these very accomplished and successful individuals are/were atheists. Atheists are some of the most ethical, compassionate, giving people you are likely to encounter. Certainly more so than many of the people who loudly proclaim their religious beliefs while using those beliefs to discriminate and put down those who disagree with them. I would suggest you educate yourself on a subject before slandering an entire group of people in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/84 "2016-01-31T20:17:48Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Values. Hard work. Going to school, having an education. Well, given the bible’s attitude towards such things - “Thinking they were wise, they became fools”; “The lord will provide”; etc. The values of the Christian Bible are values of “The world is about to end and God will help you, so stay meek and stupid”, not “I have to take care of myself, work hard, and learn about the world”. > [@GloryDays](#): > > Work values. Ethics. Most atheists do not. They are seen as leeches, losers, haters, parasites, people who want to suck the country dry. Atheists don’t enter the military for honor, they do it to get on the government largesse. That is how normal Americans see it. As an atheist, I feel the need to point out that _the fact some idiots hold a fucking ridiculous stereotype does not justify believing that ridiculous stereotype_. In fact, I feel absolutely justified in saying that anyone who believes that stereotype is a big part of the problem with this country. I’m sure glad you couched this in terms of “they believe X”, because whoever “they” are, they’re huge jerks. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/85 "2016-01-31T20:20:29Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > The Muslims I know do pretty much the same thing most of us do to make America a better place: work, take care of their families, try and raise their kids right, participate in society. What more do you want? For them to stop supporting terrorism. Period. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/86 "2016-01-31T20:22:12Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > For them to stop supporting terrorism. When did they _start_? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/87 "2016-01-31T20:23:48Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > For them to stop supporting terrorism. Period. As far as I can tell, none of them do. It’s never even crossed my mind that any of them might. None of them have ever said or done anything that in any way, shape, or form indicates that they support terrorism. Good enough? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/88 "2016-01-31T20:25:34Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > When did they _start_? You don’t see Christians hijacking into towers. That’s one. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/89 "2016-01-31T20:27:42Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > You don’t see Christians hijacking into towers. That’s one. No, we just see them blowing up Federal buildings and killing hundreds of people including young children. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/90 "2016-01-31T20:29:00Z")
I’ll add that this is one of the most amazing examples of thread drift I’ve ever seen. We started out with the opinion that the Democratic Party is anti-God, and by nice easy steps have got to the opinion that Muslims do not better America. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/91 "2016-01-31T20:30:10Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > You don’t see Christians hijacking into towers. That’s one. Wait, I thought we were talking about Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/92 "2016-01-31T20:32:18Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > You don’t see Christians hijacking into towers. That’s one. I don’t see most Muslims doing that either. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/93 "2016-01-31T20:34:08Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I don’t see most Muslims doing that either. 9/11? C’mon. Don’t deny things. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/94 "2016-01-31T20:35:43Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > 9/11? C’mon. Don’t deny things. 19 Muslims committed an evil act on 9/11. There are about 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. That means that about 1,599,999,981 Muslims did not “hijack into towers” that day. Furthermore, out of the approximately 3 million Muslim Americans living in the country at the time, **zero** of them “hijacked into towers” that day. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/95 "2016-01-31T20:35:44Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > 9/11? C’mon. Don’t deny things. Is English your first language? You’re having a very hard time following what people say. I wonder if that’s because you’re struggling with the language or if you’re being willfully obtuse, or the third option. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/96 "2016-01-31T20:40:56Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’ll add that this is one of the most amazing examples of thread drift I’ve ever seen. We started out with the opinion that the Democratic Party is anti-God, and by nice easy steps have got to the opinion that Muslims do not better America. Enh. It’s all just run of the mill bigotry. Not that big a step really. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/97 "2016-01-31T20:42:00Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Thank you for your service. What will you say next time your friends denigrate atheists who serve? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/98 "2016-01-31T20:47:37Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Is English your first language? > > You’re having a very hard time following what people say. I wonder if that’s because you’re struggling with the language or if you’re being willfully obtuse, or the third option. Yes, it is. Let’s not do that. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/99 "2016-01-31T20:54:39Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > 19 Muslims committed an evil act on 9/11. > > There are about 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. > > That means that about 1,599,999,981 Muslims did not “hijack into towers” that day. > > Furthermore, out of the approximately 3 million Muslim Americans living in the country at the time, **zero** of them “hijacked into towers” that day. Why are they in the U.S. then? Why? Why don’t they stand up to radical Jihadists? ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/100 "2016-01-31T20:56:02Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Is English your first language? > > You’re having a very hard time following what people say. I wonder if that’s because you’re struggling with the language or if you’re being willfully obtuse, or the third option. I’m not obtuse, by the way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770.md?page=6)