# Is the Democratic Party "anti-God", and what can they do to stop that stereotype? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 31, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770 "2016-01-31T18:38:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/141 "2016-01-31T23:31:41Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Dude, I am an independent. I am not a Republican. I just don’t like people mocking, disparaging God, and I hope you don’t do it either. Who in this thread has mocked or disparaged God? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/142 "2016-01-31T23:33:36Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > … dehumanizing God, … Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/143 "2016-01-31T23:43:00Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I just don’t like people mocking, disparaging, dehumanizing God, like Bernie Sanders …You know Bernie Sanders is _Jewish_, right? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/144 "2016-01-31T23:44:00Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Dude, I am an \*\*independent. \*\*I am not a Republican. I just don’t like people mocking, disparaging, dehumanizing God, like Bernie Sanders and Bill Maher do, and I hope you don’t do it either. How can you dehumanize God? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/145 "2016-01-31T23:52:57Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I just don’t like people mocking, disparaging, dehumanizing God, like Bernie Sanders. . . Where did you pick up the entirely false idea that Bernie Sanders has mocked God? Whatever the source of that lie, you should immediately break all contact with such a person who will lead you to ruin by violating the commandment “Thou shalt not bear false witness. . .” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/146 "2016-01-31T23:59:01Z")
Nobody with any sense believes that the Democratic Party is anti-God. ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/147 "2016-02-01T00:12:55Z")
Evangelicals are not the only religious group in America and the Democratic Party doing poorly with them in national elections does not mean they are “Anti-God”. Democrats would not win elections without the support of Black Protestants and Latino Catholics, just to start. Yes, some liberals on the internet forget about those groups when they rail against right-wing Christians, and the Democratic Party is more committed to secular government than Republicans (to put it lightly), but I think the stereotype of Democrats being anti-God exists primarily among groups of people for whom opposition to the Democrats goes much deeper than that. The steps that would have to be taken to ‘win them back’ on a national level would alienate much of the party’s current base. Not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/148 "2016-02-01T00:13:07Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > **GloryDays** , you have a **very bad and very annoying** habit of asking questions and then completely ignoring the answers, and deflecting when someone asks you a question instead of answering the question directly. > > Earlier in this thread, you asked “name one product or thing in the U.S. that Muslims have created or done to make America a better place.” Someone answered this question. You ignored it. You then asked “Name one Muslim celebrity or singer that changed America. Name one thing.” Instead of one Muslim celebrity, someone named a few." Again, you ignored it. > > \*\*John Mace \*\*asked you: “Are you posting your beliefs or those of your “friends”?” You responded "My friends are in pain. It’s turning violent as well for them. They love America, but they want changes. Fast. **John Mace** then stated “You didn’t answer my question. Does the post you made that I just quoted reflect your own views or those of your “friends”?” You, once again responded thusly: “I am worried that Republicans have owned the “God vote”. Why have they? Why?”, which again does not answer the question you were asked. Let me ask you a simple question to see if you can answer it: Why do you do this? Why can’t you answer the question that was asked? > > If it were just in this thread that you practiced this evasive technique I’d probably let it pass, but you’ve done this in other threads, typically political ones. You already have a reputation around here of being a mouthpiece for your “friends” in Queens and Staten Island, and then when pressed on what you believe, responding with “it’s not me who believes this, it’s my friends”. You’re the one who is a member of this board. We want to know what YOU believe? \*\*NO ONE CARES \*\*what your bigoted friends in Staten Island think or want. Can you understand this? > > When you ask “Does that mean wiping God out of the U.S. system? Is that what you want?”, by ‘the US system’ I presume you mean politics or the US political process. If that is what you mean, then yes, your god should have no part in it. > > When you ask “You want a Godless country, that’s what you want?” my response is yes, absolutely. Many Americans don’t believe in your god. This being the case, why should your belief be incorporated in US politics. > > Also, values, hard work, going to school, having an education, building on society, and believing in marriage and what it comes with it have absolutely nothing to do with your god. I don’t know why you think they do. Evangelicals are typically proponents of home-schooling, not going to school. They’re also fans of indoctrination, not education. As far as marriage is concerned, sure evangelicals are for marriage, but only for certain people. Why should atheists embrace a bigoted perspective on marriage or anything else for that matter? > > You say: “You don’t force LGBT rights on people, either. They haven’t done anything to build America up. You have to have balance.” Are you kidding me? Are you seriously saying no one with an LGB or T gender orientation has contributed to the betterment of this country? I could list over 100 names and their accomplishments that would contradict your assertion, but why waste my time when you will just ignore it. You are so wrong it is laughable. > > For some reason you put way too much stock in the ramblings of racists and bigots. Good luck to you on this board with that type of myopia. > > I won’t bother addressing any of the other nonsense you have spouted in this thread. You are obviously not nearly as knowledgable on this topic as you believe you are, but I will leave you with this: don’t ask the questions if you don’t want the answers. Exactly. Your friends are bigoted morons with values antithetical to what America is supposed to stand for. BUT WE DON’T CARE. If you want us to care, get them to become members here and debate their own points. If your “friends” snap and become violent, I hope they are arrested, tried and thrown in jail. Tell us what you believe, and why. And make sure you’re keeping things factual. This thread is full of absolute bullshit (like the idea that Bernie Sanders mocks God). ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/149 "2016-02-01T00:32:39Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Dude, I am an \*\*independent. \*\*I am not a Republican. I just don’t like people mocking, disparaging, dehumanizing God, like Bernie Sanders and Bill Maher do, and I hope you don’t do it either. Simple yes/no question for you: Does your god trump the US Constitution, or does the US constitution trump your god? If you believe the former, I suggest you move to Iran where the politics are more appropriate to your beliefs. If you believe the latter, then your god is not superior to anyone else’s god. The Constitution guarantees that as a fundamental and unalterable truth. And has since the Founding Fathers; this isn’t a new idea. Though it may be a new and foreign idea to _you_. All religions rank beneath the wisdom of the non-god centric people who built, and continue to operate this country despite the ignorant and bigoted interference from the god-centric. America: Love it as it really is and was designed to be. Or leave it for those of us who do. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/150 "2016-02-01T00:41:52Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > I understand that, but name one product or thing in the U.S. that Muslims have created or done to make America a better place. Name one Muslim celebrity or singer that changed America. Name one thing. Anousheh Ansari, US astronaut Dr. Oz Ibn al-Nafis, founder of circulatory medicine Ismail Gulgee, painter, engineer List of Muslim players in American football[URL=“[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Muslim\_sportspersons#American\_football](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_sportspersons#American_football)”] Hakeem Olajuwan, professional basketball player Hedo Turoglu, professional basketball player Rasheed Wallace, professional basketball player Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, professional basketball player Walt Hazzard, professional basketball player Shareef Abdur-Rahim, professional basketball player Muhammad Ali Mike Tyson Bernard Hopkins Henry Tillman Fareed Zakaria Aasif Mandvi, comedian Ahmet Ertegun, President of Atlantic Records Akon, musician Art Blakey, jazz musician Big Daddy Kane, rapper Busta Rhymes, rapper Everlast, rapper French Montana, rapper Ice Cube, rapper and actor Jermaine Jackson, musician Lupe Fiasco, rapper Mos Def, rapper, singer T-Pain, rapper, singer, producer Zayn Malik, former member of One Direction Shahid Khan, owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars Andre Carson, Congressman C Jack Ellis, mayor of Macon, Georgia Keith Ellison, Congressman Malcolm X Jawed Karim, co-founder of YouTube David Chappelle, comedian, actor Iman, supermodel Rima Fakih, Miss USA (under Donald Trump) ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/151 "2016-02-01T00:51:44Z")
It’s not true that all democrats hate god. But it is true, I think, that most militant atheists are going to be democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/152 "2016-02-01T00:52:59Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > What’s wrong with attracting evangelicals who might have common ground with Democrats on socioeconomic issues to the party? Obviously the party shouldn’t pander-the evangelicals aren’t stupid and they aren’t going to vote for fake triangulating socons when they can vote for the real thing-but there’s no reason why the Democrats should make it clear individual politicians should vote their conscience on say abortion and not fret over scrubbing away every mention of God even while portraying Republicans as ruled by hedonist, godless plutocrats. > [@Frank](#): > > Because in general, they don’t have common ground. Abortion is perhaps the least of the differences. In general, evangelical Christians are politically conservative, and oppose gay rights and social welfare and support a Christian (as defined by their beliefs–Christians who are liberal are not _true_ Christians–they’re probably Episcopalians, or, God forbid, even Catholics) government. They’re Republicans, they’re tea party, they’re supporters of Christian sharia law. They’re such as **GloryDays**. > > Why in the world would I want my party to attract such as them? I oppose them. Because most church goers are not single-issue zealots. Ethically, I tend to agree with Qin: I would prefer a big-tent Democratic Party. Politically though, I’m unclear whether there are any districts where such a stance would be a net plus. And by “Unclear” I mean, “Unclear”: I’d have to see an analysis with polling, focus groups, etc. My first priority involves pursuing the electoral collapse of the Republican Party, at least until they stop embracing extremism and crackpottery and start advocating compromise, good governance and representative democracy. Like enough of them did during the 1950s - 1970s: I’m not asking for perfection at all. A Democratic wave would involve some combination of pumping up and broadening the base. What combination works best is an empirical issue and may vary over time and across districts. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/153 "2016-02-01T00:55:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Anousheh Ansari, US astronaut > > Dr. Oz > Ibn al-Nafis, founder of circulatory medicine > > Ismail Gulgee, painter, engineer > > List of Muslim players in American football[URL=“[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Muslim\_sportspersons#American\_football](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_sportspersons#American_football)”] > > Hakeem Olajuwan, professional basketball player > Hedo Turoglu, professional basketball player > Rasheed Wallace, professional basketball player > Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, professional basketball player > Walt Hazzard, professional basketball player > Shareef Abdur-Rahim, professional basketball player > > Muhammad Ali > Mike Tyson > Bernard Hopkins > Henry Tillman > > Fareed Zakaria > > Aasif Mandvi, comedian > > Ahmet Ertegun, President of Atlantic Records > Akon, musician > Art Blakey, jazz musician > Big Daddy Kane, rapper > Busta Rhymes, rapper > Everlast, rapper > French Montana, rapper > Ice Cube, rapper and actor > Jermaine Jackson, musician > Lupe Fiasco, rapper > Mos Def, rapper, singer > T-Pain, rapper, singer, producer > Zayn Malik, former member of One Direction > > Shahid Khan, owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars > > Andre Carson, Congressman > C Jack Ellis, mayor of Macon, Georgia > Keith Ellison, Congressman > Malcolm X > > Jawed Karim, co-founder of YouTube > > David Chappelle, comedian, actor > > Iman, supermodel > Rima Fakih, Miss USA (under Donald Trump) Yeah but those people are, like, black! He’s looking for REAL Americans! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/154 "2016-02-01T01:03:28Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > People who are entering the military, because of \*financial reasons. \* That should not be. You enter the military because you believe you can make a difference in something, not for a handout, and that is what has been going on for the past 4 decades. It’s probably worth mentioning that people have been joining their respective militaries for financial reasons for _millenia_. My father went to university (more than forty years ago) on the GI Bill, having served four years in the Navy. My father-in-law was career Army; he got his degrees while serving. I have other friends and relations who served because they couldn’t afford to go to school on their own. Some of them went to war during their service. All of them did their duty well, and in return the military - who, let us remember, _made them this offer_ - helped fund their education. That’s not a handout; it’s part of the deal. > [@GloryDays](#): > > I get that. However, on the Muslims thing, it’s a reaction to Paris, San Bernandino, and 9/11. Have you not forgot what happened on that day? I remember San Bernandino. Do you remember the 354 mass shooting that happened before that in the same year? How many of those were committed by Muslims? > [@GloryDays](#): > > Because they are on the edge of snapping, and everyone in America’s viewpoint should be listened to before it’s too late. Ah, the battle cry of every angry fringe group. “One day soon the silent majority will rise up with us!”. The last time I heard it, it was a couple of doofuses stockpiling guns in the Carolinas with a plan to take on the military. They’re now in jail. Nobody rose up. Of course, it’s possible that your group of friends may “snap” and similarly take it upon themselves to do some violent. Which would make them terrorists. Why aren’t you doing something about that? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/155 "2016-02-01T01:04:26Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Because most church goers are not single-issue zealots. No, they’re not. I’m unaware that most church goers are evangelical Christians. Do you think I’m conflating them? I’m not. What do you think the Democratic Party should do to attract Christians who are anti-gay, anti-religious freedom, and anti-social welfare, and what do you think the Democratic Party should do, at the same time, to retain Democrats who support those issues? 'Cause I guarantee you, if the Democratic Party tried to attract people who support those issues that I have opposed all my life, I, for one, would no longer consider myself a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/156 "2016-02-01T01:04:46Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > It’s not true that all democrats hate god. But it is true, I think, that most militant atheists are going to be democrats. Not sure, as few self-identify as militant atheist and Dawkins is British anyway. Charles C.W. Cooke is a staff writer at the right-wing National Review and declares himself an atheist. He says, “There is no getting around this — no splitting the difference: I don’t believe there is a God. It’s not that I’m “not sure” or that I haven’t ever bothered to think about it; it’s that I actively think there isn’t a God — much as I think there are no fairies or unicorns or elves.” Does that count as militant? I honestly am not sure. Other atheist conservatives include George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Anthony Daniels, Walter Olson, Heather Mac Donald, James Taranto, Allahpundit, and S. E. Cupp. [http://www.nationalreview.com/article/372060/yes-atheism-and-conservatism-are-compatible-charles-c-w-cooke](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/372060/yes-atheism-and-conservatism-are-compatible-charles-c-w-cooke) ## Full disclosure: I’m agnostic. ETA and crosspost: > [@](#): > > No, they’re not. I’m unaware that most church goers are evangelical Christians. Do you think I’m conflating them? I’m not. I’m saying most attenders of evangelical churches are not single issue. We know this because they support Godless Trump. The Republican Party’s challenge has always been to persuade a sufficient share of the electorate to vote against their economic interests. I’m alleging that there might be a opportunity there for the Democrats. Qin gave specifics. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/157 "2016-02-01T01:19:31Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > ETA and crosspost: I’m saying most attenders of evangelical churches are not single issue. We know this because they support Godless Trump. Trump has told them that he supports gay rights, that he supports religious freedom, that he supports social welfare? > [@](#): > > Qin gave specifics. No, he did not. He gave an opinion that socioeconomic issues might cause them to become Democrats. His mistake is that social and economic issues are entirely separate for them, and that is the social issues that drive them. Please address the second paragraph I posted. Here, I’ll help: > [@Me](#): > > What do you think the Democratic Party should do to attract Christians who are anti-gay, anti-religious freedom, and anti-social welfare, and what do you think the Democratic Party should do, at the same time, to retain Democrats who support those issues? 'Cause I guarantee you, if the Democratic Party tried to attract people who support those issues that I have opposed all my life, I, for one, would no longer consider myself a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/158 "2016-02-01T01:20:56Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Because in general, they don’t have common ground. Abortion is perhaps the least of the differences. In general, evangelical Christians are politically conservative, and oppose gay rights and social welfare and support a Christian (as defined by their beliefs–Christians who are liberal are not _true_ Christians–they’re probably Episcopalians, or, God forbid, even Catholics) government. They’re Republicans, they’re tea party, they’re supporters of Christian sharia law. They’re such as **GloryDays**. > > Why in the world would I want my party to attract such as them? I oppose them. It is dangerous to generalize such a large demographic as American evangelicalism. It is true most of them are conservative on cultural issues but many of them are not necessarily so on socioeconomic issues both out of self-interest and out of concern for others. Historically such examples as William Jennings Bryan, Harold Hughes, or even Jimmy Carter (who is a fairly liberal evangelical) come to mind in this regard. Similarly evangelicals disagree on their views of the Catholic Church-it has to be noted the current Religious Right is very much an alliance of both evangelicals as well as conservative Catholics. Finally, most conservative Christians at worst want to return to some fantasy version of the 1950s minus Jim Crow not “Christian sharia law”-the theonomist/Christian Reconstructionist movement supports such an imposition of Mosaic law on society but they are a distinct minority even within American evangelicalism even if their influence is somewhat disproportionate-a similar position to that of Marxists in secular society, On the whole I would rather not have the Democratic Party automatically rule out [the support of a quarter of the population](http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2015/may/pew-evangelicals-stay-strong-us-religious-landscape-study.html) especially if it means attracting unsavoury types who’d vote Democrat solely for cultural issue reasons while diluting its position on bread and butter issues. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/159 "2016-02-01T01:21:57Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Simple yes/no question for you: > > Does your god trump the US Constitution, or does the US constitution trump your god? Hey, lay off **GloryDays** : maybe, Trump constitutes his God? He’s got friends in Brooklyn. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770/160 "2016-02-01T01:23:17Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Trump has told them that he supports gay rights, that he supports religious freedom, that he supports social welfare? It’s obvious to anyone who pays attention to the Donald that he doesn’t give a shit about abortion or gay marriage and he’s pretty much explicitly stated that he never had to “ask God for forgiveness”. And yes, TRUMP is a nativist welfarist who is committed to Social Security and Medicare which accounts for much of his popularity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-democratic-party-anti-god-and-what-can-they-do-to-stop-that-stereotype/744770.md?page=9)