Is the distinction between sativa and indica supported by research? Or is it marketing?

That is cheap…
The place by me has flower starting out at $120 per ounce - their tagline on billboards is “Home of the $15 eighth” and they do a "buy four, get the fifth for a penny, which is a 20% discount if you want to be seriously couch locked. :rofl:

What’s funny is, I pay pretty much the median of that on the black market in Texas. My brother pays about half that for nearly the same quality in Oklahoma’s medical market. If you don’t care about quality, there are places that would give you an ounce of pre-rolls for free with any purchase. Oklahoma is crazy.

Oh, really? You must not live in California, then, because I do, and legally sanctioned cannabis costs a lot more than it does from off the street, upward of $10 a gram for flower, and hashish from the dispos around here is rarely less than $30 a gram (the same gram used to run between $10-$15 on the clandestine market).

Rly:

Come to WA and you can buy an ounce for $30, take it back to CA and make bank :slight_smile: And I am being very sarcastic and not suggesting anyone do anything illegal.

$50-70 for 3.5 grams of flower seems to be the norm at the only place anywhere near me (New Jersey). Pre-rolls (1 gr) are $20 a pop. I didn’t see anything on the web site that indicates anything larger than an 1/8 oz. for sale Seems way out of line compared to the rest of the legal states. Competition is just getting started as licenses as being slowly issued by the state. I haven’t bought weed in 40 years but do partake on occasion with friends who buy on the black market.

I live in Santa Barbara. The biggest dispensary here has $12 grams of flower and $8 one gram prerolls. In my admittedly limited experience, LA and SF prices are typically a lot cheaper.

If you don’t mind telling us (I understand if you don’t want to do so) where are you? Have you checked weedmaps?

Since the factual question has been answered.

This question brought back memories of green weed growing everywhere during the monsoon (which is almost ending in India now). Vacant land, dilapidated buildings, road sides : Indica would grow wild everywhere. The monsoon does magic to plants in a tropical country.

The first time you walk into a dispensary is magic. It’s been years and I still feel like I’m a kid in a candy store! I hope it comes to you soon.

Just talked to my mom who gets medical marijuana in MO. It’s edibles so I can’t compare how it relates to smokeable in grams. Bottom line… $87/month.

Occasionally, depending on the store, I get more of an “Apple Phone” vibe than a candy store one. They tend to be very antiseptic, and there are gadgets (e.g. batteries for vapes) on prominent display.

I remember nearly crying, I was so happy. The goofy smile stuck on my face made the bud tender crack up when she realized my card was brand new.

When weed was made legal in Michigan they didnt open up dispensories for over a year, so illegal speakeasy dispensories popped up all over Detroit. Former gang members opened up shop in empty strip malls and the cops did nothing to stop them. Still haven’t.

White people from the burbs were then going down and scoring weed without any danger from the black gangs. They were business people first. Some are still openly operating and not charging taxes. I don’t go there anymore myself, but it was fun and exciting to take my older friends down to the hood and score.

I know people from Ohio who go there to score pounds cheaply.

Michigan is light years ahead of Pennsylvania. My brother places an order and pays online. It gets delivered to his door an hour later.

Note the bolded part here:

I’m certain that there are differences between sativa and indica. They’re different strains with different biochemical compositions. It would be surprising if they had identical effects. What Russo is saying, and what I believe to be true, is that the differences described in “lay literature” (i.e. stoner urban legend, weedbro marketing copy) are all total nonsense because they don’t know what the objectively real differences are, which is because nobody knows.

But it’s very likely that you detect a subjective and qualitative difference that makes a strain better (or at least different) for you. If enough of you were systematically surveyed about those differences then we might learn exactly what causes them, but nobody has enough incentive to invest in that kind of study. So we’re stuck with word-of-mouth.

Its also why back in day you smoked some before you bought it. Or other people you trusted vouched for it.

The thing I miss from pre-MMJ days is hanging out with my dealer. He didn’t want his neighbors wondering about short visits, so he’d always roll one. If you were just a customer, he’d roll out of your bag. If you were a friend, like I was, he’d roll out of his bag.

He usually had something he needed my help with. Once he had purchased a new kitchen sink. The guy at the store told him he’d need a basin wrench, so he bought one, but he had no idea how to use it. I spent 90 minutes scrunched under his sink, but that bag was free.

I guess I could go visit him, but he’s an hour drive away and it would be awkward.

I agree there are differences between different strains of marijuana, including Sativa v. Indica. But without proper chemical assays of the strains (information not available to the public), the real differences are not known, just guessed at.

And then the assayed strains would need to be properly run through well-sampled double-blind studies to correlate specific assayed chemicals with specific effects (moods). Otherwise, you’re just relying on anecdotal feedback from a small sample of friends and/or dispensary customers (e.g. purple porcupine sweat makes me happier and more productive than 10lb gorilla sledgehammer, and with fewer munchies).

As it stands now I believe the best you can say in a broad way is that Indica is generally more sedative than Sativa and Sativa is generally more stimulating than Indica.

With proper testing and dissemination of data to the public and dispensaries, more specific causes and effects of various strains could and should be available and understood. Until then, I just base the strain I purchase loosely on Indica = more relaxing; Sativa = more uplifting, but I place more weight on THC concentration and price.

:man_shrugging: I agree with your rephrasing of my post. This is almost exactly what I said.

Even that generalization (IMO) is completely lacking in support beyond anecdotes and gossip. It’s extremely likely that there’s a difference between the two strains, but there’s no support at all as to what that difference is, or whether everyone experiences it the same way. Further complicated by the fact that most commercial weed is hybridized to nonstandard degrees. So you’re usually getting both strains in uncertain proportions.

It’s an industry that that has the potential to be accurately based on science, but for now it’s mainly an art.

And I am a patron of the arts!