# Is the DNC platform scaringly similar to the Nazi Party platform? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 3, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069 "2018-08-03T20:24:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/1 "2018-08-03T20:24:06Z")
[Donald J. Trump, Jr. claims that the Party platforms of the Democratic and Nazi Parties are scaringly similar.](https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/02/politics/donald-trump-jr-dinesh-dsouza/index.html) > [@Donald J. Trump](#): > > You know, you see the Nazi platform in the early 1930’s and what was actually put out there as their … and you look at it compared to like … heh heh … the DNC platform of today you’re saying ‘Man!’ Those things are _awfully_ similar. Uh … to a point where its actually scary. Discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/2 "2018-08-03T20:34:11Z")
"DNC PLATFORM POINT 1 (ONE) The germanic peoples must be brought together under a single, united fatherland. POINT 2 (TWO) Kill all ze joos" I’m not seeing the similarity, didn’t the Nazi’s write theirs in german? but apparently Trump is well read on hitler so he would know. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/3 "2018-08-03T20:40:11Z")
More projection from the Bigot-in-Chief’s family. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/4 "2018-08-03T20:50:31Z")
I agree with the Democratic Party that the Treaty of Versailles was a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/5 "2018-08-03T20:56:52Z")
Party platforms in the USA mean nothing. I know I’ve said a thousand times, “You send the activists off to write the platform while the adults get together to get things done.” Party manifestos are a thing in European politics, but I think they mainly are from post World War II. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/6 "2018-08-03T21:10:38Z")
[Here’s the 25 points of the Nazi platform as of 1920](http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm) Which was early in the party when they were still trying to appeal to Socialist workers, which they later turned away from. Some of the statements do fit into the Democratic platform such as > [@](#): > > 1. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young. but on the other hand it also contains thing like > [@](#): > > 1. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich. Which sounds a bit more like some other party’s platform. I may have missed this part in history class, but I don’t recall that their push for maternity care was one of the primary reasons we went to war against the Nazis’s. More [this sort of thing](https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2017/aug/12/far-right-crowd-marches-on-university-of-virginia-campus-video). ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/7 "2018-08-03T21:17:28Z")
[Electoral-vote.com](http://Electoral-vote.com) has a very good discussion of the idiocy of this claim: > **[Electoral-vote.com](https://electoral-vote.com/evp2018/Senate/Maps/Aug03.html)** > > Track the 2018 Senate election with a red/blue map of the US updated daily using the latest state polls. In short, it is either a remarkably ignorant statement by Donald the Even Lesser, or one that is intended to further mislead his father’s remarkably ignorant followers. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/8 "2018-08-03T21:18:34Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I may have missed this part in history class, but I don’t recall that their push for maternity care was one of the primary reasons we went to war against the Nazis’s. Well, no - it wasn’t a _primary_ reason. Secondary at best. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/9 "2018-08-03T21:21:53Z")
Projection is a real thing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/10 "2018-08-03T22:20:27Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > [Electoral-vote.com](http://Electoral-vote.com) has a very good discussion of the idiocy of this claim: > > [Electoral-vote.com](http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2018/Senate/Maps/Aug03.html#item-2) > > In short, it is either a remarkably ignorant statement by Donald the Even Lesser, or one that is intended to further mislead his father’s remarkably ignorant followers. Why can’t it be both? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/11 "2018-08-03T22:24:18Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > In short, it is either a remarkably ignorant statement by Donald the Even Lesser, or one that is intended to further mislead his father’s remarkably ignorant followers. All the evidence suggests that Donald Junior is one of his father’s remarkably ignorant followers. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/12 "2018-08-03T22:28:15Z")
I can’t even entertain the idea that Donald Trump Jr. knows anything about the tenets of National Socialism, or indeed anything that other people he hasn’t dealt with personally thought and did before he was born. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/13 "2018-08-04T01:52:23Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Why can’t it be both? 🙂 The trouble is that explanation a: ignorance, and explanation b: manipulation, are kind of contradictory. If he really thinks that the Dem platform closely resembles the Nazi platform, then he isn’t manipulating opinion, and if he IS manipulating opinion then he has to know perfectly well that he’s lying. Would be nice to get him on both though. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/14 "2018-08-04T02:06:14Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > 🙂 > > The trouble is that explanation a: ignorance, and explanation b: manipulation, are **kind of contradictory.** If he really thinks that the Dem platform closely resembles the Nazi platform, then he isn’t manipulating opinion, and if he IS manipulating opinion then he has to know perfectly well that he’s lying. > > Would be nice to get him on both though. Nope. He’s too ignorant to know if the Nazi platform matches the DNC or not. He DOES know that it would make the Dems look bad so he says it anyway to manipulate opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/15 "2018-08-04T02:11:40Z")
Isn’t this just based on Dinesh D’Souza’s new movie? _[Death of a Nation](https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/death-of-a-nation-review-movie-dinesh-dsouza/)_, compares Trump to Lincoln, says the Nazis got their ideas from Democrats, and has some of the worst reviews (and most amusing) I’ve ever read. 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. I almost wish I could make myself watch it. The truth is that I would rather hear about other people who had to watch it. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/16 "2018-08-04T02:18:13Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > … I don’t recall that their push for maternity care was one of the primary reasons we went to war against the Nazis’s. … But of course the GOP would focus on it … it’s a Labor Movement. (I’ll leave now. :)) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/17 "2018-08-04T02:37:32Z")
I saw this pronouncement from Moron Jr. at the same time as I read the story about the Trump rally where Moron Sr., now the president of the USA, was egging on his supporters to condemn and threaten the mainstream media as “fake news”, and there was special vitriol against CNN. I’ve also heard that some reporters now have to have security details because of threats against them. I’m just in disbelief about what’s happening to this country. Moron Jr. is right if you take his claims and exactly reverse them, Bizarro-world style. These recent events are eerily reminiscent of the growing irrationality of Germany in the grip of the growing power of the Nazis in the mid-1930s, and that’s no exaggeration. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/18 "2018-08-04T08:38:22Z")
Well, let’s see. From the Nazi party platform referenced by **Buck Godot** : > [@](#): > > 1. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately. And the first two paragraphs of the [comparable section from the DNC platform](http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/dnc_platform.pdf): > [@](#): > > People should come to the United States with visas and not through smugglers. That is why the Democratic Party supports legal immigration, within reasonable limits, that meets the needs of families, communities, and the economy as well as maintains the United States’ role as a beacon of hope for people seeking safety, freedom, and security. Immigration is not a problem to be solved, it is a defining aspect of the American character and history. We must defend against those who would exclude or eliminate legal immigration avenues and denigrate immigrants. Those immigrants already living in the United States, who are assets to their communities and contribute so much to our country, should be incorporated completely into our society through legal processes that give meaning to our national motto: E Pluribus Unum. > > Democrats believe we need to urgently fix our broken immigration system—which tears families apart and keeps workers in the shadows—and create a path to citizenship for law-abiding families who are here, making a better life for their families and contributing to their communities and our country. Yeah, I see it. The resemblance is, uh, canny. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/19 "2018-08-04T11:03:24Z")
This is a tired old trope. In the UK, Churchill’s opening salvo in the 1945 election (that his erstwhile coalition colleagues would need to have “some kind of Gestapo”) probably increased the size of the landslide against his party, but diehard Tories went on using the “national socialist” slur against the NHS - until of course it was seen to be a popular success. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/20 "2018-08-04T11:11:21Z")
> [@](#): > > I may have missed this part in history class, but I don’t recall that their push for maternity care was one of the primary reasons we went to war against the Nazis’s. Strictly speaking, it was Hitler that went to war on the USA (and probably not because he wanted to impose state maternity care on you). Granted, it was probably only a matter of time, but he did save Roosevelt from having any argument over it with Congress. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069.md?page=2)