# Is the DNC platform scaringly similar to the Nazi Party platform?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 3, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069 "2018-08-03T20:24:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/21 "2018-08-04T11:52:09Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> … Yeah, I see it. The resemblance is, uh, canny.

Hey they both include words!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/22 "2018-08-04T12:44:54Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.

And an audience score of 74%. A variance of Tylerperryesque proportions!

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/23 "2018-08-04T12:46:21Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> [Here’s the 25 points of the Nazi platform as of 1920](http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm) Which was early in the party when they were still trying to appeal to Socialist workers, which they later turned away from.

If I’m honest, based on the question and source, it’s rather hard to get past #'s 4 and 5.

I’m sure that both parties are represented in there, in at least part. But one also assumes that these were written in priority order so… Yeah, hard to get past #4 and #5 without noting that it’s pretty clear that Junior didn’t actually read the Nazi platform.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/24 "2018-08-04T13:48:55Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Discuss.

What an idiot. The fruit clearly does not fall far from the tree.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/25 "2018-08-04T13:50:36Z")

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> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#):
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> …  
> In short, it is either a remarkably ignorant statement by Donald the Even Lesser, or one that is intended to further mislead his father’s remarkably ignorant followers.

If he successfully misleads them about which party a nazi should support, that could really hurt the Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/26 "2018-08-04T14:21:13Z")

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Shamelessly stealing “Donald the Even Lesser” for use elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/27 "2018-08-04T14:55:08Z")

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> [@Delicious](#):
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> "DNC PLATFORM
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> POINT 1 (ONE)
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> The germanic peoples must be brought together under a single, united fatherland.
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> POINT 2 (TWO)
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> Kill all ze joos"

No no no…Point 2 is “Kill all ze _jobs_”. :eek:

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/28 "2018-08-04T15:23:37Z")

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Most of the replies seem to come from liberals.

I posted my query in this forum in hopes that Republicans would participate. Is the brilliant son of America’s greatest President spot-on with this comment? Or is this one of those rare occasions when his viewpoint is not completely correct?

The D’s are generally quite thorough in addressing questions from the R’s in these forums. Why do the R’s seldom reciprocate?

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/29 "2018-08-04T15:27:23Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Most of the replies seem to come from liberals.
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> I posted my query in this forum in hopes that Republicans would participate. Is the brilliant son of America’s greatest President spot-on with this comment? Or is this one of those rare occasions when his viewpoint is not completely correct?
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> The D’s are generally quite thorough in addressing questions from the R’s in these forums. Why do the R’s seldom reciprocate?

Well, there is at least one poster on this board who in earnest posted that Nazis were leftist. So, certainly, there are those among Trump supporters who would agree. They would be wrong, but they would certainly agree.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/30 "2018-08-04T15:36:44Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Most of the replies seem to come from liberals.
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> I posted my query in this forum in hopes that Republicans would participate. Is the brilliant son of America’s greatest President spot-on with this comment? Or is this one of those rare occasions when his viewpoint is not completely correct?
> 
> The D’s are generally quite thorough in addressing questions from the R’s in these forums. Why do the R’s seldom reciprocate?

Because its not a serious accusation. Anyone who knows history knows that the Trumpist movement is a protofascist movement, the same way that the Nazis were a full fledged fascist movement.

Both believe in scapegoating the others, in suppression of civil rights, in hostility to democracy, in warmongering, in adulation of a single leader, in authoritarianism, rejection of internationalism, in corporatism, election fraud, etc. etc.

It’d be like if the democrats said the RNC platform was scaringly similar to the platform of the USSR. Its an idiotic comment made my idiots designed to persuade idiots whose minds are already made up.

I notice in fox news now the right is trying to push the idea that the democrats are the bad guys because of slavery 160 years ago. They neglect that it was southern whites who made up the democratic party 160 years ago, and now 80-90% of southern whites are republicans.

Also polls in the GOP primary showed a huge % of GOP primary voters felt the south should’ve won the civil war. Barely 1/4 were glad the north won.

> **[Exit Poll Says 20 Percent of Trump Supporters are Pro-Slavery?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-supporters-pro-slavery/)**
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> An article in the New York Times' 'The Upshot' maintained one in five Trump supporters opposed freeing slaves after the Civil War.

Its just a smear effort among idiots to appeal to other idiots. Its not a serious comment.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/31 "2018-08-04T19:56:52Z")

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> [@](#):
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> 1. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press.
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> [part omitted]
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> Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

Whose present-day opinions might that sound like?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/32 "2018-08-04T20:30:46Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, let’s see. From the Nazi party platform referenced by **Buck Godot** :Quote:  
> 8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.  
> .

Damn, That sounds a lot like the\*\* GOP\*\* platform. I bet we could do a point by point comparison…

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/33 "2018-08-04T21:03:15Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I may have missed this part in history class, but I don’t recall that their push for maternity care was one of the primary reasons we went to war against the Nazis’s.

> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Well, no - it wasn’t a _primary_ reason. Secondary at best.

I know this is sarcasm – but it did remind me that some of the Nazi’s pro-family policies (well, pro-_some_-families) were criticized here as totalitarian/creepy. See, for instance, the beginning of the Disney propaganda cartoon [_Education for Death_](https://youtu.be/6vLrTNKk89Q?t=40s): little Hans’s parents are rewarded for bearing children to feed the Nazi war machine.  
Back to the OP: I don’t think that in any wide-ranging comparison between the NSDAP platform and our two major US parties today the _Democrats_ end up closer. The Nazis were, y’know, _Nazis_! Extremely racist nationalists! Proponents of a militarized society united behind a capital-L Leader! Opponents of the “lying press!”

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/34 "2018-08-04T21:38:59Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> I can’t even entertain the idea that Donald Trump Jr. knows anything about the tenets of National Socialism

“Well, the guy in The Big Lebowski said at least it was an ethos.” - DJT Jr.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/35 "2018-08-04T21:47:31Z")

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Yep. That’s the least.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/36 "2018-08-04T21:51:15Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> If he successfully misleads them about which party a nazi should support, that could really hurt the Republicans.

Shhh!!!

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/37 "2018-08-04T23:32:48Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Most of the replies seem to come from liberals.
> 
> I posted my query in this forum in hopes that Republicans would participate. Is the brilliant son of America’s greatest President spot-on with this comment? Or is this one of those rare occasions when his viewpoint is not completely correct?
> 
> The D’s are generally quite thorough in addressing questions from the R’s in these forums. Why do the R’s seldom reciprocate?

Can’t answer for the R’s, but I think generally they don’t like to be reminded of Jr.'s existence.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/38 "2018-08-04T23:44:18Z")

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Neither does Don Sr.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/39 "2018-08-04T23:58:01Z")

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> [@snoe](#):
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> I know this is sarcasm – but it did remind me that some of the Nazi’s pro-family policies (well, pro-_some_-families) were criticized here as totalitarian/creepy. See, for instance, the beginning of the Disney propaganda cartoon [_Education for Death_](https://youtu.be/6vLrTNKk89Q?t=40s): little Hans’s parents are rewarded for bearing children to feed the Nazi war machine.  
> Back to the OP: I don’t think that in any wide-ranging comparison between the NSDAP platform and our two major US parties today the _Democrats_ end up closer. The Nazis were, y’know, _Nazis_! Extremely racist nationalists! Proponents of a militarized society united behind a capital-L Leader! Opponents of the “lying press!”

[Lügenpresse](https://twitter.com/RosieGray/status/789985264282271744/video/1) (lying press, used extensively by Goebbels), you say?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-dnc-platform-scaringly-similar-to-the-nazi-party-platform/819069/40 "2018-08-05T08:57:19Z")

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May I hijack my own thread to make it one of general praise for this Great President?

For the first 16 months of his Administration, Trump averaged only 6.5 lies per day according to the _Washington Post Fact Checker_. This really isn’t the sort of “greatest-ever” Presidency that America was expecting. I recall a Prime Minister of Thailand who might have lied at this rate or close to it.

But over the last two months, this same _Fact Checker_, reports, the Trump has been producing an average of 16 lies per day! _What an improvement!!_ And these aren’t minor white lies (“I won’t cum in your mouth, honey — and keep the noise down, I think Melania’s home”) — these are major lies about facts and governmental actions.

Idi Amin didn’t do that. Slobodan Milošević didn’t do that. Even Saddam Hussein never got up to _Sixteen Lies per Day_.

Americans should be proud of this stable genius. Make America Great Again!

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