Is the FBI right in decrying the stronger encryption about to come to smartphones?

If you honestly believe that Apple and Google have your best interests in mind more so than the US government does, then you may as well switch your party registration now and sign on for Santorum '16, because you’ve long since abandoned anything liberal in your soul.

…then they got caught engaging in conspiracy against their customers and found themselves forced back into line.

You seem to be the last Pacific-island holdout in favor of the Gilded Age practice of corporate conspiracy against the consumer.

Actually, he could drop a note to anybody at all… at least until the tech improvements become standard features of the various networks.

What can I say in the face of such sad self-parody?

Never thought I’d see the day when people who claimed to be conservative cheered the expansion of government power. Then it happened in late 2001, and has snowballed since. It’s a disgusting sight to behold. Government power should be strictly limited to only that minimum needed to function within Constitutional boundaries.

Does this mean you are claiming Smapti for your side? Because I certainly don’t want him on mine!

I don’t want him either. If I have to take him, then we get to bat first and last, and his outs don’t count.

Or maybe he could play catcher for both teams…

How domestic spying program generates profits for NSA

I picture an endless loop of “The Peni–, er, The Profit Is Evil… The State Is Good…” as smoke pours from his ears.

[ TRELAINE ] Oh, really, you must try harder; this is too easy! [ /TRELAINE ]

I guess when you froth at the mouth about this issue, you’re expressing solidarity with your intellectual soulmate.

Just because it is illegal for the government to persecute you on the basis of your constitutionally protected actions doesn’t mean they don’t do it if you give them the chance. For example, the United States government has been caught strong-arming banks to suppress a variety of “undesirable” yet protected enterprises, such as producers of pornography and journalism protected by the First Amendment and enablers of gun ownership protected by the Second Amendment.

This. Even if you are gullible enough to believe the government never abuses its power despite all the evidence to the contrary, it’s not just the government you want to give backdoor access to your phone.

My cite is the several dozen threads where you’ve argued about this.

If it were doing that, they might cheer for it.

I don’t think they’re acting with the public’s best interest in mind. I think they might be trying to please their consumer base. And I think it’s possible Apple’s actions will protect the public’s interest because the government has shown it won’t do that - and this lawsuit, unfortunately, is more proof of that.

But I didn’t call you a name did I?

It wasn’t for lack of legitimate opportunity mind you but still, I didn’t do it and had you paid more than cursory attention to my post you would comprehend that.

I said your “train of thought” was beloved of fascist states everywhere. And that is true. Yours is exactly the sort of mindset that they want to encourage. At no point did I call you a fascist.

Hope that clears it up for you.

And Santorum probably would use the intelligence apparatus for the kind of petty spying you’re so paranoid of. Liberals wouldn’t, because they don’t need to. You’re opposing liberals for using something they can be trusted with because you can’t trust conservatives with it, and therefore you make it easier for conservatives to get into power and abuse that something.

You’re doing more to elect Santorum by opposing this program than I am by defending it.

So conservatives want big government and liberals want corporations to help people break the law.

And I’m the crazy one.

On behalf of all lurkers: Yes. Yes you are.

FDR wasn’t a liberal? News to me…

What “something” is that? We’ve established that it isn’t the subject of this thread.

In any case, you need to polish your rhetorical skills in order to better support the candidate who fits your ideology – get Slick for Rick!

A glimmer of self-awareness peeks out. There may be hope for you yet…

Although given this, it’s hardly “name-calling” to label one who believes such things a fascist. Just like it’s not name-calling to label the grand wizard of the KKK a racist, or Stalin a communist. Simply because a political label becomes undesirable does not negate its use as a label. Smapti is a fascist, in the same way I’m a liberal, adaher is a conservative. Even if I don’t self-identify as such. Now, you want name-calling, and there’s plenty we could offer in the pit. But calling him a fascist is not that.

It is absolutely mathematically possible to produce encrypted data that it would take an adversary more computational than exists in the entire universe to decrypt.

This makes a lot of assumptions though, it assumes it is perfect and that the NSA hasn’t weaseled errors into the most used algorithms or standards or software(we know they have tried). We know from Snowden’s leaks for example they couldn’t crack Tor routing, so they were attacking it indirectly.

Dude, you’ve got Santorum on your post.

Well, that settles it - the Second War Powers Act should definitely be repealed.