# Is the Nazi Era of Stories Almost Over? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 29, 2009, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664 "2009-07-29T13:36:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/41 "2009-07-29T22:13:32Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Surf nazis? For those who are unaware, search “Surf Nazis Must Die” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/42 "2009-07-29T22:28:01Z")
Moon Nazi Flying Saucers. Or, alternatively, Subterrainean South Pole Nazis. In flying saucers. Could Bigfoot be a Nazi? I know Nessie was… ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/43 "2009-07-29T23:58:26Z")
> [@der trihs](#): > > ss officer 1: “hans ?” > > ss officer 2 : “yes ?” > > ss officer 1: “i just noticed. We are wearing black uniforms, and our hats have skulls on them. Are . . . Are we the _ **bad guys** _?” 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/44 "2009-07-30T00:04:45Z")
Well, there are always \*Neo \*Nazis. > [@installLSC](#): > > I remember reading a National Review article in 1985 about why the Nazis have remained the standard of evil throughout the atrocity racked 20th century. It pointed out that other groups from Communists to Islamic terrorists have at least cloaked their brutality in some higher religious or philisophical good. The Nazis in contrast were the id released: sheer rage with no real higher purpose (as a historian put it “spitting in the face of the Enlightenment”). It claimed the appeal of Nazi stories is like the appeal of “hero fighting the dragon” stories–it mirrors the struggle we all have between our basest needs and our more civilized nature. I imagine in the future writers looking for this conflict will just imagine revivals of the Nazis because the source material is too strong. I have to say, I found it rather disappointing that the villain in the most recent _Indiana Jones_ movie was a Commie rather than a Nazi, pretty much for the reasons you describe. I’ve heard that an earlier draft of the script had the villains being Nazis who’d fled to South America during/after WWII, and I think that would have been better. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/45 "2009-07-30T00:04:53Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > They were an evil political party as well as an evil government, so they had resources to pull off Big Evil like doomsday weapons. > > Being such a large, well-organized entity lets them fit the role of The Secret Evil Corporation. This also provides convienant backstory for Evil Conspiracies, what with real life conspiracies like the ODESSA organization. > > They had cult-like qualities with mythic pretensions, so they fit in with supernatural plots. > > So it isn’t just that they’re the standard of evil. It’s that they have so many qualities that make for great villains. And all these traits also create a favorable environment for having plots about continuing Nazi conspiracies, biding their time for their comeback. No need to have the organization be directly led by survivors or direct descendants – after the first generation of survivors the leadership figures that they can go on with a “corporate” type secret organization of converts and fresh recruits, while looking forward messianistically to the rise of a new Führer. Crypto-neo-nazis will be around for a while as characters. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/46 "2009-07-30T01:02:10Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Surf nazis? Clockwork-driven body dysmorphic order-addicted zombie Nazis? [Karl Ruprect Kroenen - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroenen) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/47 "2009-07-30T01:23:09Z")
[I don’t think they’ll ever go out of style.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=510457) ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/48 "2009-07-30T01:25:32Z")
Crypto-neo-ninja Nazis? And what about those German accents? I mean, come on now? How evil would someone sound interrogating and torturing Our Hero with a French accent? Yeah, I guess it’s possible to have a good French villain, but isn’t it so much easier to just use a Nazi? “Schweinhund! Vee haff vays off making you talk!” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/49 "2009-07-30T10:02:36Z")
Tiny, nigh-invisible, winged, flying insects that have embraced German nationalism? You know? Gnatzis? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/50 "2009-07-30T12:59:09Z")
Or those Fascist micro-organisms that infest your nasal cavities. Snotzies. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/51 "2009-07-30T13:08:10Z")
Don’t forget the fascist-bondage freaks: knotsies. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/52 "2009-07-30T14:27:07Z")
What about cloned offspring of Henry Winkler and Hitler: Fonzies ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/53 "2009-07-30T16:11:44Z")
Reminds me of the old TV show _Gimme A Break_. > [@](#): > > Nell) Why don’t you go to the movies > > Chief) I hate movies > > Nell) _You liked Raiders of The Lost Ark_ > > Chief) Well who wouldn’t like a bunch of Nazis getting what’s coming to them. Nazis are way too easy of a target for writers. Let’s write about a Granny taking care of a bunch of orphans and using her own money to do it. And let’s have the Granny do evil things. It makes for a much better villian ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/54 "2009-07-30T16:52:36Z")
Fascists who suffer from chronic diarrhea: Trotsies. ---
**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/55 "2009-07-30T18:20:55Z")
Wouldn’t that be communists, though? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/56 "2009-07-30T19:34:54Z")
From one of Alan Dean Foster’s Spellsinger books, there’s a Nazi eagle standard that somehow gets transported to the world of magic and animated into life. He tries to set up a Nazi-style Reich of the raptors over all “lesser” species. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/57 "2009-07-30T19:40:13Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Could Bigfoot be a Nazi? No way. Anything with even the slightest fascist/Nazi vibe would be a total anathema to his anarcho-primitivist/pacifist ethos. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/58 "2009-07-30T19:43:35Z")
The Third Reich is dead, but, believe it or not, [fascism is still alive.](http://www.johnreilly.info/fah.htm) Nowhere in power, but alive as a movement. We should always be wary for its resurgence. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/59 "2009-07-30T19:47:49Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Modern skinhead/white supremacist gangs can work nicely in a pinch. Pffft! Brownshirts! Ignorant thugs to be used to win power and [suppressed afterwards!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives) ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664/60 "2009-07-30T19:52:31Z")
A clone army created from genetic material found in Hitler’s mucous: Snatzies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-nazi-era-of-stories-almost-over/504664.md?page=4)