# Is the New York Times Pro-Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 29, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509 "2024-06-29T21:31:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/421 "2024-09-30T23:23:45Z")
Yeah, on both sides, even. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/422 "2024-10-01T01:46:35Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > It should be noted they still get in some digs about the fact she hasn’t given them the interview they want. Yep "it’s a disservice to the American people " But most of it is a polemic of why trump is a bad choice. Which is true, of course. > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Do I actually want to see Harris and Trump taking questions like this? No, because Trump will give non-answers, and it is hard for a responsible normie candidate to give serious answers without including soundbites that can sound scary out of context. Right. There’s another thread here about John Kerry, where one line out of an hour was taken out of context and has been pushed to show Kerry wants the 1st Ad repealed. Which is absolutely not true. So, trump will give a long rambling nonsensical answer about sharks, Hannibal Lecter and pet eating, and the media will sane wash it. Harris could give a solid, educated reply, and they will take one line out of context. There is no use playing that game. It is biased and fixed. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/423 "2024-10-05T01:26:31Z")
Gift link Trump Promised to Release His Medical Records. He Still Won’t Do It. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/03/health/trump-health-records.html?smid=nytcore-android-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/03/health/trump-health-records.html?smid=nytcore-android-share) The whole article is pretty critical of Trump, but more importantly, so is the headline ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2024, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/424 "2024-10-05T01:32:15Z")
That’s nice. They’re also fluffing Vance as a presidential candidate. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZC6eIUWkAAx3Bz?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZC6eIUWkAAx3Bz?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/425 "2024-10-06T20:49:02Z")
OK, credit where it’s due - they FINALLY decided to stop sanewashing Trump for a day. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/politics/trump-speeches-age-cognitive-decline.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/politics/trump-speeches-age-cognitive-decline.html) > [@](#): > > According to a computer analysis by The New York Times, Mr. Trump’s rally speeches now last an average of 82 minutes, compared with 45 minutes in 2016. Proportionately, he uses 13 percent more all-or-nothing terms like “always” and “never” than he did eight years ago, which some experts consider a sign of advancing age. > > Similarly, he uses 32 percent more negative words than positive words now, compared with 21 percent in 2016, which can be another indicator of cognitive change. And he uses swearwords 69 percent more often than he did when he first ran, a trend that could reflect what experts call disinhibition. (A study by Stat, a health care news outlet, produced similar findings.) > > Mr. Trump frequently reaches to the past for his frame of reference, often to the 1980s and 1990s, when he was in his tabloid-fueled heyday. He cites fictional characters from that era like Hannibal Lecter from “Silence of the Lip” (he meant “Silence of the Lambs”), asks “where’s Johnny Carson, bring back Johnny” (who died in 2005) and ruminates on how attractive Cary Grant was (“the most handsome man”). He asks supporters whether they remember the landing in New York of Charles Lindbergh, who actually landed in Paris and long before Mr. Trump was born. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/426 "2024-10-06T21:32:01Z")
If the NYT wants _their_ October Surprise to be “See? We can bash Trump for his age too!”, I’m fine with that, tbh. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/427 "2024-10-08T11:49:42Z")
What’s wrong with trump is everything _but_ his age. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/428 "2024-10-08T12:42:29Z")
His age is an issue too, but it’s _way_ down the list. ---
**Author:** ![squidfood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/429 "2024-10-10T02:57:55Z")
Right now on the front page (below hurricane coverage) are two headlines. The bigger/higher one is “In Interviews, Kamala Harris Continues to Bob and Weave” (describing how NYT think she gives non-answers) and immediately below it is this one “In remarks about migrants, Donald Trump invoked his long-held fascination with genes and genetics.” So they’ve moved from Harris not giving interviews to saying she’s not giving the right kind of answers, while Trump literally invoking honest-to-god eugenics is treated as a fascination and with a tone that implies it’s a normal kind of interest. Utterly insane. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/430 "2024-10-10T03:06:21Z")
[I am posting a gift link to the NYT article you reference](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/us/politics/harris-interviews-analysis.html?unlocked_article_code=1.RE4.BE2M.QtoIr3XpZ-6f&smid=url-share) @squidfood. Their criticism of Harris sounds to my ears like “How dare she do interviews in other media and not with us. Clearly she is not serious about these issues.” Sulzberger clearly still has a stick up his ass because she hasn’t kissed the ring. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/431 "2024-10-10T03:16:03Z")
They absolutely should hammer his age. The whole point of getting Biden to drop out of the race was so that age could flip from being the Democrats’ biggest liability to their biggest advantage. If they let the age issue slip to the wayside, they’re throwing away a huge asset. Instead of America wondering how long the 81-year old Biden can hang on, now it’s time to speculate about the 78-year old Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/432 "2024-10-10T03:54:39Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Sulzberger clearly still has a stick up his ass because she hasn’t kissed the ring. And of course, she shouldn’t. Especially not now, it would make her look weak. And I know this is overly simplistic, but old media is dying right in front of us. And this is a prime example of it. I say this as someone who worked in the newspaper industry in various roles for most of 1995 to 2010. By 2010 I knew it was time to get out. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/433 "2024-10-10T04:05:50Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Their criticism of Harris sounds to my ears like “How dare she do interviews in other media and not with us. Clearly she is not serious about these issues.” _Her media swing provided a glimpse into how she often responds to unpleasant questions without answering them_ trump, meanwhile, never answers _any_ questions. Unpleasant, pleasant, easy, hard- his answers are a James Joycian Stream of Un-consciousness, with babbling about sharks, Hannibal Lecter, how to pronounce her name, etc. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/434 "2024-10-10T12:40:46Z")
If they didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/435 "2024-10-11T15:58:11Z")
> > > “If the Biden economy is doing so well, why don’t people feel like it’s doing well?” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/436 "2024-10-12T09:54:53Z")
When I’m put in charge of rewriting the Constitution, journalists will be banned from using passive voice in headlines. > ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/437 "2024-10-12T20:14:34Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > When I’m put in charge of rewriting the Constitution, journalists will be banned from using passive voice in headlines. I am not sure what you mean, or what the tweet means. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/438 "2024-10-12T20:16:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I am not sure what you mean, Active voice: “Man Kicks Dog” Passive Voice: “Dog Kicked” The headline is passive in that Trump’s rally is “marked by nativist attacks” while conveniently neglecting to mention who did the marking or what motivated them to so mark it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/439 "2024-10-12T20:20:26Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The headline is passive in that Trump’s rally is “marked by nativist attacks” while conveniently neglecting to mention who did the marking or what motivated them to so mark it. Which was who and what? Apparently this rally is famous for some reason? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/440 "2024-10-12T20:22:03Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Which was who and what? Apparently this rally is famous for some reason? Exactly. You wouldn’t know from reading the headline that the people doing the nativist attacks are Trump’s fans and they’re there because he has deliberately been trying to whip up racial hatred in order to get himself elected and justify the Holocaust he wants to perpetrate against US citizens. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509.md?page=23)