# Is the New York Times Pro-Trump?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 29, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509 "2024-06-29T21:31:34Z")\
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If each of those 200,000 subscribers paid $100, the number is accurate, and they stay away, that amounts to $20m. Or, to Bezos, a rounding error - and cost of doing business.

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> But here’s the thing. The author writes unequivocally that eggs cost nearly three times as much as they did four years ago, but, well, I bought these yesterday:

This is actually pretty close to true, but it’s dishonest in a different way.

> **[Average Price: Eggs, Grade A, Large (Cost per Dozen) in U.S. City Average](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111)**
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> Average Price: Eggs, Grade A, Large (Cost per Dozen) in U.S. City Average

This is why it’s dishonest.

> **[Here we go again. Egg prices are spiking. Here’s why | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/25/business/egg-prices-groceries-inflation-bird-flu/index.html)**
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> Supermarket prices are no longer skyrocketing – except, of course, if you’re buying eggs.

> Egg prices spiked by 28.1% in August from 12 months ago, easily the biggest increase out of any food item tracked by the[Bureau of Labor Statistics](https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t07.htm).
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> The [sticker shock in the egg aisle](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/business/egg-prices-cal-maine-bird-flu/index.html) comes even as overall grocery prices are barely budging (up less than 1% in August from last year) and inflation cools across the US economy.

The cause is primarily bird flu.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/583 "2024-11-02T13:45:15Z")

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The “pro-Trump” NY Times has [this](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/02/opinion/vote-harris-2024-election.html) to say as their closing argument on the presidential election:

VOTE TO END THE TRUMP ERA

You already [know](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/18/opinion/trump-presidency-record.html) Donald Trump. He is [unfit](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/11/opinion/editorials/donald-trump-2024-unfit.html) to lead. [Watch him](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/22/opinion/donald-trump-ezra-klein-podcast.html). Listen to [those](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/09/26/opinion/donald-trump-personality-history.html) who know him [best](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/01/18/opinion/trump-cabinet-election-2024.html). He tried to [subvert](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/opinion/trump-jan-6-indictment.html) an election and remains a [threat](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/opinion/trump-2024-campaign-warning.html) to democracy. He helped overturn Roe, with terrible [consequences](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/17/opinion/dobbs-roe-abortion-stories.html). Mr. Trump’s [corruption](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/opinion/trump-presidency-corruption.html) and [lawlessness](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/17/opinion/trump-five-major-investigations-dozens-of-ways-out.html) go [beyond](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/17/opinion/donald-trump-trial.html) [elections](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/opinion/editorials/trump-indictment-republicans.html): It’s his whole [ethos](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/opinion/trump-al-capone.html). He [lies](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/opinion/trump-lies-charts-data.html) without [limit](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/25/opinion/what-trump-says.html). If he’s re-elected, the G.O.P. won’t [restrain](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/opinion/trump-2024-election.html) him. Mr. Trump will use the [government](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/opinion/donald-trump-culture-decline.html) to go after [opponents](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/opinion/trump-2025-second-term.html?). He will pursue a [cruel](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/14/opinion/trump-debate-haitians-pets.html) policy of mass [deportations](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/opinion/trump-woodward-milley-mass-deportation.html). He will wreak havoc on the [poor](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/opinion/harris-trump-debate-issues.html), the [middle class](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/31/opinion/trump-threat-treasury-market.html) and [employers](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/23/opinion/ceo-trump-republican-support.html). Another Trump term will damage the [climate](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/20/opinion/trump-biden-climate-election.html), shatter [alliances](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/17/opinion/trump-harris-foreign-policy.html) and strengthen [autocrats](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/21/opinion/trump-foreign-policy.html). Americans should demand [better](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/30/opinion/editorials/kamala-harris-2024-endorsement.html). Vote.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/584 "2024-11-02T20:56:42Z")

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> [@ShadowFacts](#):
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> The “pro-Trump” NY Times has [this](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/02/opinion/vote-harris-2024-election.html) to say as their closing argument on the presidential election:

No one doubts that the NYT has endorsed Harris and is against trump. But their constant niggling attacks on Biden, then Harris, mostly for failing to give an exclusive interview, made they appear to be secretly pro-trump.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/585 "2024-11-02T21:25:29Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> made they appear to be secretly pro-trump.

To some it did appear that way, yes.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/586 "2024-11-19T15:25:53Z")

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> **[Judd Legum (@juddlegum.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/juddlegum.bsky.social/post/3lbcppprghk2a)**
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> The NYT printed this in its op-ed section this AM: "A central pillar of American democracy is that no man is above the law. But Mr. Trump isn’t an ordinary man."
> 
> Wrong. 
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> America doesn't have a king or a divine ruler. We elect an ORDINARY MAN as...

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/587 "2024-11-19T16:08:10Z")

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Trump **isn’t** an ordinary man. He’s far, far worse.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/588 "2024-11-24T20:20:28Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Sigh, now the LA Times has joined in.

And the owner has now predictably gone mask-off.

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rbffgd2zo6r7rmnklo2nlyy5/bafkreidgf6cndobb447sw76aghoiyps6ufwvquaiu44pttxllhjiywtwf4@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:rbffgd2zo6r7rmnklo2nlyy5/bafkreidgf6cndobb447sw76aghoiyps6ufwvquaiu44pttxllhjiywtwf4@jpeg)

The mainstream media in this country needs to be held responsible for putting their thumbs on the scale for Trump.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/589 "2024-11-24T20:36:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And the owner has now predictably gone mask-off.

Huh? Link goes nowhere, is this just a picture- of what?

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Link goes nowhere, is this just a picture- of what?

It’s a screenshot of a tweet. Here, I’ll do it this way;

> <https://x.com/DrPatSoonShiong/status/1860532866947428360>

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Link goes nowhere, is this just a picture- of what?

Screencap of X retweet (by EM, of course) of a post by LAT owner Pat Soon Shiong praising the Donald and Mr. Brainworm for “an inspired decision” in choosing the appointees to FDA, CMS and CDC and for the vision of transforming the system “from sick care to true health care” and ending an “era of dogma, group think”.

Drat, seconds too late.

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Drat, seconds too late.

Not an expression you hear much anymore. Also Charlie Brown’s favourite, “Rats.”

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Paul Krugman, an economist who has been very negative about Trump’s policies, has just “retired” as a columnist at the New York Times. While it could well be voluntary because of age or health concerns (he is 71) or he has more desirable things to do (a new book…) or it could be forced because he no longer appeals to the younger demographic… the possibility exists he was dumped for his anti-Trump beliefs. Thoughts?

> **[Paul Krugman retires as Times columnist | The New York Times Company](https://www.nytco.com/press/paul-krugman-retires-as-times-columnist/)**

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Krugman’s post on Bluesky states “I decided to leave in search of more freedom in terms of both style and content” and it does not appear he’s going to burn any bridges by going any further than that.

It doesn’t sound like he was retired by the Times, at any rate, and it is entirely plausible it was both voluntary and for the reasons he stated, i.e. the Times is no longer a great place for him to write columns.

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I doubt it was anything nefarious. I wonder who will replace him? He was easily by favorite opinion writer, made me smarter.

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I’m sad to hear this. He is one of my favorite columnists, and is easily the most knowledgeable columnists on economics that I read.

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Agree. Even got that Nobel.

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I love Krugman, and I write that with an economics undergrad degree and having worked tangentially in investment banking for close to a decade in the 1990’s.

That said, I will concede that the NY Times editorial board has gone down the path of false equivalency and whataboutism vs calling bullshit. Krugman called bullshit. Fingers crossed his voice remains represented in the NYTimes OpEd pages

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> …the Times is no longer a great place for him to write columns.

Probably this. I hate to see him go. As soon as anyone discovers where we can read him regularly again, please tell.

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/600 "2024-12-10T21:39:30Z")

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He said he’ll probably post future plans tomorrow morning

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