# Is the New York Times Pro-Trump?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 29, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509 "2024-06-29T21:31:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/621 "2025-02-01T07:53:04Z")

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Good job kissing Trump’s ass, NYT. See what it gets you?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/622 "2025-02-01T22:10:38Z")

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What does that link say? Can you provide a fair use snippet? My computer doesnt want to go there.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/623 "2025-02-01T23:11:42Z")

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It says that the Times (along with NBC, NPR, and Politico) are losing their Pentagon press credentials, which are being given to the New York Post, HuffPo, Breitbart, and OANN.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/624 "2025-02-02T03:16:03Z")

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Allegedly they’re only losing their offices at the Pentagon and their credentials will remain. Allegedly.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/625 "2025-02-04T23:00:05Z")

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Now the Times is retroactively misgendering former staff.

> **[Sabrina Imbler (@sabs.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/sabs.bsky.social/post/3lhekxsdoks2r)**
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> lmao sorry this is so fucked up??? I was using they/them pronouns when I started at the NYT in 2021 and when I left in 2022.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/626 "2025-02-06T11:00:28Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Now the Times is retroactively misgendering former staff.

Mistake since corrected:

[Sabrina Imbler was a reporting fellow for The New York Times, covering science. They left The Times in May 2022.](https://www.nytimes.com/by/sabrina-imbler)

If MAGA is to be defeated, my advice is to stop applying purity tests to 80 percent allies.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/627 "2025-02-06T16:15:47Z")

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In this case since that IS the actual person affected, they had every right to call it out.

But otherwise, sure, perfection is unattainable.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/628 "2025-02-06T20:41:03Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> If MAGA is to be defeated, my advice is to stop applying purity tests to 80 percent allies.

And one person, which was admitted to be a mistake is really not _misgendering former staff_, More Like misgendering one former staff member. That term indicates many staff members.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/629 "2025-02-07T12:44:48Z")

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I think that the NY Times is the least pro-Trump these days among legitimate newspapers. They haven’t bent the knee the way that the LA Times and WashPost have. However, this headline is right out of the NYT Pitchbot:

> **[Trump’s Power Grab Defies G.O.P. Orthodoxy on Local Control](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/us/politics/donald-trump-california-newyork-executive-orders.html)**
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> New York City traffic. California water rules. Middle school sports. Few local policies are outside the reach of Donald J. Trump’s federal government.

Give me a break – there’s no “GOP orthodoxy” about local control and there never has been. It’s local control for when the national opinion is against them, and federal control when they can get what they want.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/630 "2025-02-11T04:27:52Z")

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DEVELOPMENT PLAN?!

What was the Holocaust, New York Times? A fucking urban remodel?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/631 "2025-02-11T13:52:26Z")

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Maybe they’ve corrected that. I went looking for that headline, and found:

# Trump Says He May Cut Aid to Jordan and Egypt if They Don’t Take Gazans

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2025, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/632 "2025-02-17T21:21:13Z")

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On Hochul possibly firing Eric Adams; sure, he may be fundamentally corrupt and in bed with a tyrannical fascist, but nOw iS nOt tHe tImE fOr cHaLlEnGiNg nOrMs

> **[Opinion | Refusing to Carry Out Trump’s Flagrantly Dishonest Orders](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/opinion/eric-adams-trump-justice-department.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)**
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> The Trump administration is trying to bake quid pro quo deal making, coercive tactics, loyalty tests and other dishonorable practices into American government.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/633 "2025-03-01T20:31:10Z")

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The Times thinks getting rid of diversity has a “positive impact” and that persecuting trans people is inconsequential.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/634 "2025-03-01T21:48:46Z")

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Not exactly. The chart says trans issues are “less consequential” (THAN the issues above it on the chart). NOT **IN** consequential. It’s a _spectrum_.

Also, it says _“trans issues,”_ NOT “persecuting trans people.”

Read what’s in front of you.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/635 "2025-03-01T21:53:11Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It’s a _spectrum_.

And the Times is on the wrong side of it. What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/636 "2025-03-01T23:35:58Z")

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You mean you didn’t understand? Can’t help you then.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/637 "2025-03-01T23:41:20Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You mean you didn’t understand?

I understand that calling trans issues (and we know what the Times means by that) “less consequential” is wrong. Do I have to start reciting Niemoller?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/638 "2025-03-02T00:38:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The Times thinks getting rid of diversity has a “positive impact” and that persecuting trans people is inconsequential.

Here is the link to the full article:

> **[Opinion | Trump’s First Full Month in Office Is Over. Here’s Which Actions...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/01/opinion/trump-administration-first-month.html?smid=url-share)**
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> From DOGE to Ukraine to the Eric Adams case, these are the most consequential actions by the new administration so far.

I find this article strange.

It is extraordinarily long for an unsigned article. The only other New York Times articles, that long, that I may have seen unsigned were ones with a Russia or China dateline where they were trying to protect the journalist.

As to whether the quadrant placements are correct, at first it looks like you could read the whole and make your own judgment. But the capsule opinion article summaries only capture maybe 60 percent of the columns being assessed, making this difficult.

I hate to sound conspiratorial, but it almost sounds like someone is making a case that the Times opinion section is fully balanced, when, actually, by the standards of the U.S. political world, the Times is mostly a liberal newspaper, both in hard news and opinions…I wonder who the audience is for this article. Obviously – not the progressives at SDMB!

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/639 "2025-03-02T01:05:58Z")

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Gift link for link in my last post:

> **[Opinion | Trump’s First Full Month in Office Is Over. Here’s Which Actions...](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/01/opinion/trump-administration-first-month.html?unlocked_article_code=1.004.FAQw.qO8ZYDUiScWD&smid=url-share)**
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> From DOGE to Ukraine to the Eric Adams case, these are the most consequential actions by the new administration so far.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/640 "2025-03-02T01:26:57Z")

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Paul Krugman, who was as hard on Trump as any columnist, left at the end of last year because he was concerned that they were going to cut his frequency and because they kept battling him on tough lines. Charles Blow and Pamela Paul, both about as progressive as Krugman, are also leaving soon.

The op-ed page has filleted Trump consistently over the past month. Maybe they’ve decided that a new roster of columnists are needed, and I’ll eventually recognize the new names and their slants. So that’s a wash.

People who used to complain about the Times’ front page headlines have hopefully stopped now that their front pages are filled with articles exposing Trump’s schemes.

The other stuff is reading tea leaves.

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