# Is the New York Times Pro-Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [June 29, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509 "2024-06-29T21:31:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/641 "2025-03-02T01:39:53Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Charles Blow and Pamela Paul, both about as progressive as Krugman, are also leaving soon. Blow is progressive. Paul is not: [I often write about illiberal progressive orthodoxies, in particular around identity, language, morality, gender ideology, class and free speech.](https://www.nytimes.com/by/pamela-paul) ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/642 "2025-03-02T01:41:53Z")
You trust what an author says about themselves in a promotional piece? ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/643 "2025-03-02T01:51:20Z")
I read some of her columns. If she was here, she would be pitted (and classed with J. K. Rowling). January 30, 2025: [your brain does not need to have an equal and opposite reaction to everything Donald Trump does. If you think that most maximalist positions on the right sound unhinged and inhumane, consider that their corresponding positions on the left may be zany in their own special ways.](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/opinion/trump-ai-social-media-humor.html?unlocked_article_code=1.004.giqA.27LQx_i77fhN&smid=url-share) . ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/644 "2025-03-02T02:10:39Z")
I looked at that column. Branding her anti-progressive and even pittable on the basis of it is ludicrous. You seem to be equating “progressive” with “idiot woke tribal screamer.” I don’t. I think Krugman is a progressive and he never expressed those sentiments. And neither do I. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/645 "2025-03-02T19:40:26Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > …, actually, by the standards of the U.S. political world, the Times is mostly a liberal newspaper, both in hard news and opinions… Is or was? > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I read some of her columns. If she was here, she would be pitted (and classed with J. K. Rowling). From that paragraph I dont see that. It is certainly true that the _Far left_ has some radical and crazy positions. However, the far left has very little political power in the USA. We still have people in the USA that claim to be “true” communists. People have called for the end of capitalism, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/646 "2025-03-05T22:04:41Z")
NYT in the tank for Republican and Trumpist framing: > **[Trump Administration Is Frustrated Over Pace of Deportations](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/05/us/politics/trump-immigration-deportations-arrests.html?unlocked_article_code=1.1k4.9K4D.bjDXOINvfB76&smid=url-share)** > > President Trump’s promise to launch the largest deportation operation in U.S. history is colliding with the practical difficulties of detaining people and transporting them across the globe. Lots of talk about numbers of deportations and sanctuary cities. _Not even a mention_ of eVerify, the program for addressing _employment_ of undocumented workers. It could be strengthened _a lot_, but Republicans have no interest in that. Local law enforcement may or may not cooperate with ICE, but there’s no discussion of whether businesses do or don’t. This is all PR. Sure, it’s cruel, and appeals to hearts of malice. That’s the point. The point certainly has little to do with curbing illegal immigration itself. If it did, it would run into a tsunami of business opposition. A scared labor force is a cheap labor force: performative cruelty appeals to both nativists and those wishing to displace American born workers. [[Some will want to point out that empirically speaking immigration tends to help US citizens. [The data indeed supports this contention.](https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/why-immigration-doesnt-reduce-wages) I’m discussing politics and perceptions.]] ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/647 "2025-09-16T14:41:23Z")
I agree with Donald Trump on something – the New York Times is far from pro-Trump: [Trump Sues The New York Times for Articles Questioning His Success](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/business/media/trump-lawsuit-new-york-times.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mU8.16by.J_8pFQankc2N&smid=url-share) > [@](#): > > According to the complaint, the articles and the book were published with “actual malice” toward Mr. Trump and caused “enormous” economic losses and damage to his “professional and occupational interests.” The lawsuit asked for damages of at least $15 billion. > > The defendants named in the suit were The New York Times Company and Susanne Craig, Russ Buettner, Peter Baker and Michael S. Schmidt. The complaint also named Penguin Random House, which published a book about Mr. Trump written by Ms. Craig and Mr. Buettner, as a defendant. I hadn’t planned on reading the book Trump is trying to suppress, but will now. It Is: [Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father’s Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/672076/lucky-loser-by-russ-buettner-and-susanne-craig/) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/648 "2025-09-16T14:44:50Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I hadn’t planned on reading the book Trump is trying to suppress, but will now. It Is: > > [Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father’s Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/672076/lucky-loser-by-russ-buettner-and-susanne-craig/) Here’s the _Fresh Air_ interview with the authors. I heard it when it first came out. Worth a listen (transcript follows): # ‘Lucky Loser’ dispels the myth of Trump as a self-made billionaire _Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporters Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner spent years examining Trump’s finances and businesses. They trace how he squandered his father’s fortune in a new book._ [https://www.npr.org/2024/09/17/g-s1-23396/lucky-loser-dispels-the-myth-of-trump-as-a-self-made-billionaire](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/17/g-s1-23396/lucky-loser-dispels-the-myth-of-trump-as-a-self-made-billionaire) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/649 "2025-09-17T18:04:19Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I agree with Donald Trump on something – the New York Times is far from pro-Trump: If you read this thread, it wasn’t so much the NYT being PRO-trump as it was running front page attack articles vs Biden, and to a lesser extent Harris, as they wouldnt give the NYT an exclusive interview. That hurt Harris. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/650 "2025-09-17T18:07:55Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > That hurt Harris. I doubt it. I’m pretty sure the readership of the NYT mostly votes and almost all voted for Harris. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/651 "2025-09-18T21:20:54Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > ‘Lucky Loser’ dispels the myth of Trump as a self-made billionaire Good _Fresh Air_ interview - thanks. ---
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/652 "2025-09-19T17:42:50Z")
Judge throws out Trump V NYTimes $15 billion lawsuit because it doesn’t state a claim: > **[Live updates: Federal judge tosses Trump's $15B defamation lawsuit against...](https://apnews.com/live/donald-trump-news-updates-9-19-2025)** > > A federal judge in Florida has tossed President Donald Trump’s $15 billion defamation lawsuit against The New York Times. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/653 "2025-09-19T19:31:17Z")
Re last post, the article says the plaintiff can resubmit if the suit is cut in half (40 pages down from 80). I wonder if they can reduce the font. I guess it is notable that a Bush the Elder judicial appointee who previously seemed on the Trumpy side quickly threw it out. 2022: > **[To Protect “Religious Freedom,” a Judge Still Won’t Let the Navy Deploy a...](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/judge-merryday-navy-warship-religious-freedom-vaccine.html#)** > > Judge Steven Merryday showed no regrets about prohibiting the Navy from reassigning an anti-vaxxer. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/654 "2025-11-13T00:31:47Z")
Returning to this thread because today’s email drop shows that in 2015, Jeffrey Epstein offered the Times photos of Trump in his house with (presumably underage) girls in bikinis and told them about an incident where Trump was so busy staring at said girls that he walked straight into a sliding glass door. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:vjgtjcimdykyfxxoreb7rwvq/bafkreiebqo4tesclsfeiz7z7ulh7vh3ixc43zgyydjmsk34aqxdlkod67y@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:vjgtjcimdykyfxxoreb7rwvq/bafkreiebqo4tesclsfeiz7z7ulh7vh3ixc43zgyydjmsk34aqxdlkod67y@jpeg) [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:eyfljkh234pjizrlqp4kduaa/bafkreibttghqaveok6jkqwjmhiqsuyprx4vnbove7exgjig5c2vs4prgz4@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:eyfljkh234pjizrlqp4kduaa/bafkreibttghqaveok6jkqwjmhiqsuyprx4vnbove7exgjig5c2vs4prgz4@jpeg) The Times, of course, never reported this. Her emails, though. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/655 "2025-11-13T00:52:21Z")
Jesus! On a lesser note, there’s this both-sides from the Times, as pointed out in today’s Krugman [substack](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/war-is-peace-freedom-is-slavery-grocery): > But the Times went on to engage in some serious false equivalence: > > “Mr. Trump risks being in a similar position as his predecessor, defending his record by pointing to statistics that don’t capture a troubling reality that many Americans are feeling.” > > Sorry, but that’s a false comparison. You might even call it fake news — because Trump is not, in fact, pointing to any statistics. He’s just lying. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/656 "2025-11-13T16:14:35Z")
Trump is pointing to stats. Didn’t you hear that the economic think tank institution Door Dash said inflation is down? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/657 "2025-11-13T16:17:06Z")
And, if you can’t trust Door Dash, well, it adds no information about who you can trust. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/658 "2025-11-13T16:18:49Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Trump is pointing to stats. That’s how the Democrats won the 2024 elections. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2026, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/659 "2026-01-05T23:22:02Z")
No, Times, he didn’t “choose” her. She’s first in the constitutionally-established line of succession. What kind of Pravda bullshit is this? [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:tm3djotsgwdkml5jn5rpubhd/bafkreifijimo4fcp7vhsk5y7nxqlfocxh5dd6dtmfqq7mdwqtsojmu4i44@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:tm3djotsgwdkml5jn5rpubhd/bafkreifijimo4fcp7vhsk5y7nxqlfocxh5dd6dtmfqq7mdwqtsojmu4i44@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509/660 "2026-01-21T02:30:20Z")
The Times is running the “Is Trump secretly a genius?” editorials again. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j76trmiofvaxxpvx2vnb2vwf/bafkreiaoj3og2dynikkwlq4vqnbcud7fyduirscpmfxg6bdbsy4r2u6gz4@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:j76trmiofvaxxpvx2vnb2vwf/bafkreiaoj3og2dynikkwlq4vqnbcud7fyduirscpmfxg6bdbsy4r2u6gz4@jpeg) [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/20/us/politics/trump-one-year-unpredicatability.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/20/us/politics/trump-one-year-unpredicatability.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-new-york-times-pro-trump/1003509.md?page=34)