# Is the "pick up artist" movement an inherently good or bad thing?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 23, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pick-up-artist-movement-an-inherently-good-or-bad-thing/572932 "2018-04-23T20:52:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pick-up-artist-movement-an-inherently-good-or-bad-thing/572932/197 "2018-04-26T02:41:32Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> Wow. The misogyny, it burns!

How is that misogynistic? Can you explain how any of his comments shows a hatred of women? Why is it that men can’t voice any gripes at all without the misogyny label being thrown around to silence them?

My wife never had to dumb herself down. She may not speak Mandarin but she is an entrepreneurial genius. This whole “women have to dumb themselves down” sounds a lot like sour grapes - you know, the same sour grapes that guys get called misogynists for… :rolleyes:

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