# Is the Placebo Effect a myth?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 26, 2001, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-placebo-effect-a-myth/66585 "2001-05-26T14:15:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2001, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-placebo-effect-a-myth/66585/1 "2001-05-26T14:15:31Z")

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There a _very_ interesting article at [http://www.forteantimes.com](http://www.forteantimes.com)

The jist of it is that if you compare the results of giving patients a placebo with the results of not treating them at all, the difference is almost nothing. They’re saying that that drug studies should be re-designed to have three groups of people: One given the real drug, one given a placebo, and one given nothing.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2001, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-placebo-effect-a-myth/66585/2 "2001-05-26T15:27:18Z")

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This probably belongs in GQ (or even GD).

I heard the same story on NPR.

Here is the story from the [New England Journal of Medicine](http://www.nejm.org/content/2001/0344/0021/1594.asp)

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2001, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-placebo-effect-a-myth/66585/3 "2001-05-26T15:29:05Z")

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The link is to this article in the [_Times_.](http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-2001171715,00.html). It may be that the article misrepresents the study, but it seems to me that this misses the point of trials with placebos, which loosely speaking is attempting to isolate the (reported or otherwise measured) effects of what is _in_ the pill from the effects of taking a pill.