# Is the Pope Catholic? Jerome Corsi questions this Pope's Catholicism
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**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 19, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209 "2013-09-19T04:47:36Z")
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### Author:  [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/81 "2013-11-27T21:33:38Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And, of course, [the One True Church](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubGenius) has a **lot** of Popes, and so does [the other One](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism).
:cough: We don’t \*have \*Popes. We simply recognize that everyone is a Pope (so please treat’m right).
I’m not sure Pan-Pontification is even Discordian, 'xactly.
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/82 "2013-11-27T21:46:45Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Absolutely. One of them is [Zladko Vladcik, of Molvanîa](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBHfXPqbgI).
What happens if he shakes hands with Francis?
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### Author:  [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/83 "2013-11-27T21:49:34Z")
> [@andros](#):
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> Dunno, but he probably like soccer.
Football. And enough with the Italian dialect already. 😃
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### Author:  [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/84 "2013-11-27T21:51:12Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> What happens if he shakes hands with Francis?
We’re forced to sit through a rerun of _The Alternative Factor_ :eek:
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### Author:  [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/85 "2013-11-27T21:54:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> So what? He also criticizes abortion.
If he forces the American cardinals to criticize abortion a teeny bit less and economic inequality a whole lot more, the heads of their Catholic right wing buddies will explode during sermons.
It used to be hard for a rich person to enter heaven, but now it appears they think they have FastPass and can cut the line, just like at the airport and the amusement park.
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/86 "2013-11-27T22:01:26Z")
Man, you’d think all those bishops who voted for him would’ve noticed if he wasn’t Catholic… that’s gotta be line 1 on the job descriptions.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2013, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/87 "2013-11-27T22:29:19Z")
> [@Voyager](#):
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> If he forces the American cardinals to criticize abortion a teeny bit less and economic inequality a whole lot more, the heads of their Catholic right wing buddies will explode during sermons.
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> It used to be hard for a rich person to enter heaven, but now it appears they think they have FastPass and can cut the line, just like at the airport and the amusement park.
American Catholics are not the anti-abortion foes. They are for/against abortion pretty much in the same ratio as the rest of the populace. I doubt they are informed in the opinion about that by their priests any more than they are about birth control. It’s the Evangelical and Fundamentalist Protestants who are the real abortion foes.
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### Author:  [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/88 "2013-11-28T05:13:31Z")
> [@Gyrate](#):
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> More like _The Pope Must Die_.
Beware of the Dwarf! (or is it “look out for the midget”?)
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### Author:  [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/89 "2013-11-28T05:38:08Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Beware of the Dwarf! (or is it “look out for the midget”?)
Far out!
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/90 "2013-11-30T16:51:14Z")
Well, did you read the encyclical written by the Pope?
He says folks with private property ain’t got no hope
The rich ain’t welcome in the Heavenly Palladium
The Knights of Columbus own Yankee Stadium
Now, I ain’t sayin’ that the Pope was wrong
But he can easily afford to sing that song
If you’d like to call him up when you need some dough
His number’s Et Cum Spiritu Tuo
– “Color TV,” Don McLean
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/91 "2013-11-30T17:35:05Z")
For non-Catholics, and Catholics too young to know about the Latin mass…
_Et cum spirtu tuo_ is “And with your spirit”. It used to go:
Priest: _Dominus vobiscum_
Alter boys: _Et cum spiritu tuo._
You couldn’t always count on the congregation to respond in Latin, and sometimes only the alter boys would (we had little cue cards with the response written in red).
Now it’s:
Priest: The Lord be with you.
Congregation: And with your spirit.
John Mace: former, pre-Vatican II alter boy.
Oh, and the nuns (or at lest my 2nd grade nun) had this little helpful advice to remember the phrase: Think of “et cum spearmint, chew-chew oh!”
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/92 "2013-11-30T18:58:20Z")
My god, you’re old!
My mom, grandma and aunts used to pray the rosary, and if I remember correctly – and I may not-- it was at least partly in Latin. What was that about?
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### Author:  [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/93 "2013-11-30T22:37:49Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> My god, you’re old!
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> My mom, grandma and aunts used to pray the rosary, and if I remember correctly – and I may not-- it was at least partly in Latin. What was that about?
Sheesh. Depends on what you mean by “old.” I’m in my fifties, and I can remember my _Pater Noster_ and my _Ave Maria_ and bits and pieces of the Mass.
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### Author:  [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/94 "2013-11-30T23:00:42Z")
Hell, I’m 30ish, not a Catholic and even I know the Pater Noster. It goes like the second verse of the national hymn : _Pater noster qui es in caelis, **mumble mumble** ,_ AMEN.
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/95 "2013-11-30T23:01:28Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Sheesh. Depends on what you mean by “old.” I’m in my fifties, and I can remember my _Pater Noster_ and my _Ave Maria_ and bits and pieces of the Mass.
I was joking. I am 43 myself. 🙂
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/96 "2013-11-30T23:01:50Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Sheesh. Depends on what you mean by “old.” I’m in my fifties, and I can remember my _Pater Noster_ and my _Ave Maria_ and bits and pieces of the Mass.
I barely made the cut-- there was only one year overlap of me being old enough to be an alter boy and Vatican II changing the mass to English. But damn it, I can remember all the Latin calls/responses during the mass to this very day. From the first _Dominus_ to the last _Oremus_! 🙂
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### Author:  [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/97 "2013-11-30T23:16:58Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I barely made the cut-- there was only one year overlap of me being old enough to be an alter boy and Vatican II changing the mass to English. But damn it, I can remember all the Latin calls/responses during the mass to this very day. From the first _Dominus_ to the last _Oremus_! 🙂
OK. Let’s see you do the _Suscipiat_.
(For some reason, that was always harder than the much longer _Confiteor_.)
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/98 "2013-12-02T09:58:11Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, did you read the encyclical written by the Pope?
> He says folks with private property ain’t got no hope
> The rich ain’t welcome in the Heavenly Palladium
> The Knights of Columbus own Yankee Stadium
> Now, I ain’t sayin’ that the Pope was wrong
> But he can easily afford to sing that song
> If you’d like to call him up when you need some dough
> His number’s Et Cum Spiritu Tuo
>
> – “Color TV,” Don McLean
I’m not familiar with that song but that’s pretty clever ("Et Cum Spiri 2-2-0).
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### Author:  [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2013, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/99 "2013-12-02T10:20:30Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> You couldn’t always count on the congregation to respond in Latin, and sometimes only the alter boys would (we had little cue cards with the response written in red).
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> …
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> John Mace: former, pre-Vatican II alter boy.
You of all people should know it’s altar, then.
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### Author:  [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2013, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-pope-catholic-jerome-corsi-questions-this-popes-catholicism/669209/100 "2013-12-02T12:53:56Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I barely made the cut-- there was only one year overlap of me being old enough to be an alter boy and Vatican II changing the mass to English. But damn it, I can remember all the Latin calls/responses during the mass to this very day. From the first _Dominus_ to the last _Oremus_! 🙂
In those days, they didn’t let girls serve. But we could follow along with the Latin quite well because The Daily Missal had Latin on one page & the English translation on the facing page. You could skip back & forth between the bits said daily (or per type of mass–regular or special) & the parts that changed by date. There were nifty colored ribbons to use as bookmarks. Lots of fun if you got bored…
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