# Is the Trump a drinker? Or cocaine punk? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943 "2020-05-16T21:50:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/1 "2020-05-16T21:50:15Z")
Ive wondered ab out this for a long time, since his twitters often com at 4-5 in the morning. Is he posting drunk? I know the rumours that he is an abstinence man, but noone can trust him, so thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/2 "2020-05-16T21:53:08Z")
I could have done better in my message title, if any mod sees this, please correct my error ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/3 "2020-05-16T22:08:07Z")
I believe he’s a tee-totaller. I don’t think coke is his problem. He might be on ADD drugs or something. Or, maybe he’s just bat-crap insane. Yeah, I’m going with that. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/4 "2020-05-16T22:10:26Z")
He is likely suffering from early onset dementia. His behavior is too erratic and self=destructive to be the work of a normal brain. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/5 "2020-05-16T22:19:05Z")
To me, he scans like a stupid man who wakes up, chases adderall with coffee, and thinks it’s his job to own the libs for a few hours. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/6 "2020-05-16T22:24:33Z")
Trump says often in public that he does not drink alcohol. I am not aware of anyone calling him out on that, so I’m inclined to believe it’s true. (Compared the number of people who gleefully talked about Obama smoking.) Could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/7 "2020-05-16T22:24:41Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > He is likely suffering from early onset dementia. His behavior is too erratic and self=destructive to be the work of a normal brain. Interesting thought. Ive seen earlier interview from whne he was younger where he seemed quite composed and coherent ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/8 "2020-05-16T22:28:38Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > He is likely suffering from early onset dementia. His behavior is too erratic and self=destructive to be the work of a normal brain. This, and there are persistent rumors that he takes pseudoephedrine in gorilla-sized doses. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/9 "2020-05-16T22:32:01Z")
Trump is so secretive, but I think though he claims not to have ever had a drink, he gets drunk and tweets drunk. It’s pretty obvious, and Trump is not known for telling the truth, quite the opposite, so when he claims he never had a drink in his life I think it’s safe to say yes he drinks and tweets. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/10 "2020-05-16T22:32:15Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > He is likely suffering from early onset dementia. His behavior is too erratic and self=destructive to be the work of a normal brain. Maybe. I think it’s the work of a brain of a profoundly stupid asshole. No need to make assumptions or make it overly complicated. We can just stick to the facts. Occam’s Razor, Simple as that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/11 "2020-05-16T22:32:45Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > Trump says often in public that he does not drink alcohol. I am not aware of anyone calling him out on that, so I’m inclined to believe it’s true. (Compared the number of people who gleefully talked about Obama smoking.) Could be wrong. Maybe that’s his problem? He might chill out if he had a beer or two once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/12 "2020-05-16T22:45:53Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > Ive wondered ab out this for a long time, since his twitters often com at 4-5 in the morning. Is he posting drunk? > > I know the rumours that he is an abstinence man, but noone can trust him, so thoughts? Trump is too wigged out to be a drinker. If what ails him is chemically induced, it’s uppers of some kind. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/13 "2020-05-16T22:47:44Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > Trump says often in public that he does not drink alcohol. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard him say that. I’ve heard second-hand accounts that he doesn’t drink alcohol, and have no reason to doubt _those_. However, if he does indeed state often in public that he doesn’t drink, I’d switch my view and suspect that he does since the rule of thumb is that he’s always lying. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/14 "2020-05-16T22:48:27Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I believe he’s a tee-totaller. I don’t think coke is his problem. > He might be on ADD drugs or something. > > Or, maybe he’s just bat-crap insane. > > Yeah, I’m going with that. Exactly. The standard narrative is that his brother drank himself to death and so Trump decided never to drink. As has been pointed out, he’s not a trustworthy source of information, but there are plenty of people who’ve known Trump for decades and have witnessed him and his family up close. If the story as told were untrue, someone would have said something by now. Yet I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anyone accuse Trump of drinking. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/15 "2020-05-16T22:50:52Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > He is likely suffering from early onset dementia. The man is 73 already. That’s far too old for “early”-onset dementia. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/16 "2020-05-16T22:51:52Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Maybe. I think it’s the work of a brain of a profoundly stupid asshole. No need to make assumptions or make it overly complicated. We can just stick to the facts. Occam’s Razor, Simple as that. A man of his age who doesnt exercise and hates to read…? Omorossa thinks he has dementia > **[Omarosa’s book raises new questions about Trump, dementia, and Alzheimer’s...](https://qz.com/1355725/omarosas-book-unhinged-suggests-trump-has-dementia-or-alzheimers-disease)** > > Trump's memory is failing, he's irritable, and prone to fits of rage, the former White House staffer writes. His Aides think he “…think he may have learning disabilities, dementia or can’t read” > **[Donald Trump aides think he may have learning disabilities, dementia or can't...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mental-health-michael-wolff-learning-disabilities-dementia-adhd-read-semi-literate-fire-and-fury-latest-a8146176.html)** > > US President dismisses critics and says he is 'like, really smart' and a 'very stable genius' And The Atlantic hints at abnormalities in his movement and behavior > **[Is Something Neurologically Wrong With Donald Trump?](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759/)** > > It is best not to diagnose the president from afar, which is why the federal government needs a system to evaluate him up close. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/17 "2020-05-16T22:52:00Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > Trump says often in public that he does not drink alcohol. I am not aware of anyone calling him out on that, so I’m inclined to believe it’s true. (Compared the number of people who gleefully talked about Obama smoking.) Could be wrong. Yeah, I don’t think he drinks either, or at least not much. His brother died of alcoholism and I think he decided he was never going to do that. I do believe both pill popping and dementia. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/18 "2020-05-16T22:53:44Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > The man is 73 already. That’s far too old for “early”-onset dementia. I believe the early part refers to the stage of disease, not his age. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/19 "2020-05-16T22:55:51Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Exactly. > > The standard narrative is that his brother drank himself to death and so Trump decided never to drink. As has been pointed out, he’s not a trustworthy source of information, but there are plenty of people who’ve known Trump for decades and have witnessed him and his family up close. If the story as told were untrue, someone would have said something by now. Yet I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anyone accuse Trump of drinking. Where would a President get alcohol anyway? When Nixon turned to drinking to deal with the stress and anxiety of Watergate it got out. In embarrassing detail. ---
**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/20 "2020-05-16T23:00:27Z")
The man lies about everything, so I don’t know why his claim that he doesn’t drink is so readily believed. It’s not his mood altering substance of choice, but there are plenty of accounts from people who’ve seen him drink and served him drink. Noel Casler, who worked on The Apprentice, tweets about Trump’s prodigious stimulant use. Adderall (snorted) is apparently his “maintenance” drug, but coke and meth are in play as well. And the barbiturates to bring him back down (those slurry, sleepy times when he has to give a prepared speech). It’s very interesting to see Noel tag the Trumps (he’s got dirt on the kids too) in all his tweets and they never, ever react. Wonder why that might be? > [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943.md?page=2)