# Is the Trump a drinker? Or cocaine punk? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943 "2020-05-16T21:50:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/21 "2020-05-17T00:13:45Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Where would a President get alcohol anyway? When Nixon turned to drinking to deal with the stress and anxiety of Watergate it got out. In embarrassing detail. I imagine a president could order a fully stocked bar and wine with dinner. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/22 "2020-05-17T00:16:32Z")
McDonalds doesn’t sell booze in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/23 "2020-05-17T00:31:14Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > McDonalds doesn’t sell booze in the USA. Or cocaine, sadly. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/24 "2020-05-17T01:49:39Z")
No. He’s not tweeting drunk. IMPE, drunk people do not lie like Hell when they’re plastered. If anything, they are far too honest. The damn dirty lying sack of dung is just evil. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/25 "2020-05-17T02:16:09Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > IMPE, drunk people do not lie like Hell when they’re plastered. Unless they’re predisposed to lying to begin with. We had neighbors like that: liars while sober and even bigger liars while drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/26 "2020-05-17T02:39:19Z")
I don’t think Trump drinks. But you know how some people get drunk and lose their filter for what’s normal social behavior? That’s Trump’s natural state. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/27 "2020-05-17T02:42:47Z")
He’s just a massive prick. No drugs or alcohol or dementia necessary. No excuses. Just a nasty, petty, evil piece of shit. Always has been. Sure, there’s a reason. Do you care? His father probably belittled him and made him feel small. His mother probably fucked him in the ass with a strap-on, or something equally normal. Monsters are made, I guess. Rather than understand him, I wish he’d just fuck off and die of a massive coronary. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/28 "2020-05-17T02:52:20Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > He’s just a massive prick. No drugs or alcohol or dementia necessary. No excuses. Just a nasty, petty, evil piece of shit. Always has been. > > Sure, there’s a reason. Do you care? His father probably belittled him and made him feel small. His mother probably fucked him in the ass with a strap-on, or something equally normal. Monsters are made, I guess. Rather than understand him, I wish he’d just fuck off and die of a massive coronary. So you won’t be voting for him? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/29 "2020-05-17T02:53:30Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > He’s just a massive prick. No drugs or alcohol or dementia necessary. No excuses. Just a nasty, petty, evil piece of shit. Always has been. > > Sure, there’s a reason. Do you care? His father probably belittled him and made him feel small. His mother probably fucked him in the ass with a strap-on, or something equally normal. Monsters are made, I guess. Rather than understand him, I wish he’d just fuck off and die of a massive coronary. While I too reluctantly wish he would die or his guard would Caligula/Nero him for the good of the country, I think its very important to understand difficult/unusual/controversial people for the sake of future generations. Our understanding of Hitler, Himmler and how they came to murder millions of people helps us prevent such future genocides. Regardless of political ideology, Trump is utterly unfit to be President and each day he serves is a further embarrassment/disaster for our country. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/30 "2020-05-17T03:04:47Z")
Trump is a fucking moron – except for when it comes to scamming people. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/31 "2020-05-17T04:05:58Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Trump is a fucking moron – except for when it comes to scamming people. I don’t think he’s that good at scamming people. The real issue is the number of people who basically scam themselves and swan dive for him. That’s more a function of their stupid behavior than his evil behavior. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/32 "2020-05-17T04:15:55Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Or cocaine, sadly. Wait, you mean that “special sauce” doesn’t… ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/33 "2020-05-17T04:25:37Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > The man is 73 already. That’s far too old for “early”-onset dementia. Okay, early-STAGE dementia. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/34 "2020-05-17T05:06:04Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > I could have done better in my message title, if any mod sees this, please correct my error Fixed typos in title. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/35 "2020-05-17T05:11:01Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Where would a President get alcohol anyway? When Nixon turned to drinking to deal with the stress and anxiety of Watergate it got out. In embarrassing detail. Why wouldn’t a president be able to get alcohol? Just because there have been drunks in the White House before doesn’t mean they’ve banned it from the premises. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/36 "2020-05-17T05:17:22Z")
There must certainly be some cognitive decline at play, to say the least. There are known recordings of him speaking at earlier stages of his life. (I’ve haven’t listened to any myself, but I’ve seen it mentioned many times.) By all accounts I’ve read, he was a passably articulate and lucid speaker in days of yore, compared to the inchoate word salad he spouts these days. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/37 "2020-05-17T05:41:44Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Where would a President get alcohol anyway? When Nixon turned to drinking to deal with the stress and anxiety of Watergate it got out. In embarrassing detail. After he resigned, yes. I’m unaware of this being common knowledge while he was in office. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/38 "2020-05-17T06:15:32Z")
Another thing I’ve not seen specifically mentioned in this thread is the idea that he’s sundowning. Or that his Adderall has worn off. rather than him adding more. He could be posting with the drunkenness you feel when incredibly sleepy, made worse by his cognitive decline. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/39 "2020-05-17T06:30:38Z")
I’ve known people who seemed just as batshit insane as Chump even without drugs or alcohol. That he does not drink seems to be generally accepted. Didn’t his father have extreme Alzheimer’s? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943/40 "2020-05-17T07:22:34Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > After he resigned, yes. I’m unaware of this being common knowledge while he was in office. > **[“What have I done?”: The Final Hours of Richard Nixon’s Presidency](https://anthonybergen.medium.com/what-have-i-done-the-final-hours-of-richard-nixon-s-presidency-40ffbeac6c44)** > > The 37th President of the United States was hysterical. Crumpled in a leather chair in the Lincoln Sitting Room, his favorite of the… Woodward and Bernstein soon made it common knowledge. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-trump-a-drinker-or-cocaine-punk/853943.md?page=3)