# Is the United States government hiding the existence of ET visitations? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 8, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178 "2019-02-08T15:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/61 "2019-02-08T18:33:16Z")
By the way it’s not just the United States govt, its many world govts, including Russia, China. The US simply has a monopoly on technology, or at least wants to maintain its monopoly. ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/62 "2019-02-08T18:36:11Z")
> [@senoy](#): > > I think it’s safe to say that I’m going to step out of this septic tank. Kamaski, good luck on your endeavours enlightening us all to the evil government conspiracy. My only advice to you is that if you start to think you are being followed or you feel the need to hurt someone to protect the truth you seek immediate professional help. Be wary of the line between ‘eccentric’ and ‘threat to yourself and others.’ Thank you, i appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/63 "2019-02-08T18:37:36Z")
Do you have any insights you care share on other hot topics, such as… … the safety of vaccines? … the origins of HIV/AIDS? … the eye on top of the pyramid that’s on the back of $1 bills? … fluoridation of water? … crisis actors? … the pizza joint in DC that is supposed to be the home of a child sex slave ring? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/64 "2019-02-08T18:38:07Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > By the way it’s not just the United States govt, its many world govts, including Russia, China. > > The US simply has a monopoly on technology, or at least wants to maintain its monopoly. Before you go any farther with these wild claims(and I’m sure that is going to be pretty damn far), would you mind dipping a toe into the evidence part of the conversation? What is the best you’ve got? ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/65 "2019-02-08T18:51:29Z")
I can’t convince all of you, but once you see it with your own eyes you will come to terms with it, and it will set you free. The truth will set you free, I know its a cliche but it is true. I suggest everyone have an open mind and be open to new ideas. Thats the best way we can have resonable discourse. By the way I have been threatened with injection and its not fun, it sucks. And in that moment I became against the death penalty forever. How one human being could inject another is disgusting to me, all human life on this earth must be cherished. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/66 "2019-02-08T18:55:31Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > By the way I have been threatened with injection and its not fun, it sucks. And in that moment I became against the death penalty forever. How one human being could inject another is disgusting to me, all human life on this earth must be cherished. I’m sure you aren’t talking about a flu shot, but the way you phrase it, it sounds like you’re talking about an execution. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/67 "2019-02-08T18:58:48Z")
No. Now, whether or not we have been visited by extraterrestrials and nobody, including the government, ever discovered this, is an entirely different question. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/68 "2019-02-08T19:08:22Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > I think the whole “the public will panic” narrative fed to us for years was always a terrible cover story. The real reason is plain and simple, GREED. Enormous amounts of greed. > > Greed so bad that it causes one part of the plant to live in abject poverty while the other part of the planet “thrives” (doesn’t actually thrive). > > In the US alone the wealth inequality is enormous and ridiculous. We should have ended this injustice years ago. So, is your theory that the US govt is hiding the aliens with or against the alien’s desires? If the aliens don’t want to be hidden, then I don’t see how we could keep them hidden. If they do want to be hidden, then they are kept hidden because an advanced species from across the universe, with access to powers and technologies beyond our comprehension, asked the govt not to talk about them. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is this badly-spelled vague advice to look up something your best piece of evidence to support your supposings? Badly spelled? I didn’t see any bad spellings, Los Angles was a key battle in the trigonometric wars. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/69 "2019-02-08T19:14:37Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > Yes, Tesla was a genius. > > I believe he got “hints” in his dreams on how to achieve free energy from higher dimensional beings/ETs. > > Just like how James Clerk Maxwell and Einstein talked about having vivid dreams where they took their inspiration from. > > I think the gift of electromagnetic theory was gifted to Maxwell in his dreams from a higher dimension/ETs. This just cheapens human ingenuity. To say that we couldn’t have come up with any of this without help from outside. > [@Kamaski](#): > > By the way it’s not just the United States govt, its many world govts, including Russia, China. > > The US simply has a monopoly on technology, or at least wants to maintain its monopoly. Unstable govts as well, like Pakistan or Venezuela? Unstable leaders, even, for instance, does Trump know about all this? ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/70 "2019-02-08T19:17:45Z")
I suggest everyone in this thread search “The Disclosure Project” on google and read some of the accounts of those involved. Their goal is to safely disclose the knowledge gained by people who have had contact with higher beings. Please watch “unacknowledged” on Netflix and I ask you to please read the accounts of the Air Force officers who made contact and others involved. They seems to often make contact nearly missile feilds/bases meaning they are concerned with our nuclear weapons our nuclear weapons and don’t want us to hurt ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/71 "2019-02-08T19:21:20Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > I suggest everyone in this thread search “The Disclosure Project” on google and read some of the accounts of those involved. > > Their goal is to safely disclose the knowledge gained by people who have had contact with higher beings. > > Please watch “unacknowledged” on Netflix and I ask you to please read the accounts of the Air Force officers who made contact and others involved. > They seems to often make contact nearly missile feilds/bases meaning they are concerned with our nuclear weapons our nuclear weapons and don’t want us to hurt ourselves. Are there any conspiracy theories out there that you _don’t_ support? ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/72 "2019-02-08T19:25:31Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > So right smack in the middle of World War II, the largest armed conflict in the history of mankind, when the U.S. had mobilized industry to run 24/7 to produce 300,000 aircraft, 1,200 large ships and 35,000 landing craft, god knows how many trucks, jeeps and other land vehicles, moved entire armies across oceans and continents, rationed coal and gasoline to civilians – then J. Edgar Hoover broke into Tesla’s apartment, took his plans for free (and presumably unlimited) energy that could power the wartime effort, **DIDN’T** tell the military, Congress, or Franklin Roosevelt, and, in fact, took this secret to his grave? Wasn’t it the office of alien property who seized the documents? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/73 "2019-02-08T19:33:35Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > Wasn’t it the office of alien property who seized the documents? What the fuck are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Kamaski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9d8465/32.png) [@Kamaski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamaski)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/74 "2019-02-08T19:47:30Z")
I don’t know if Trump knows, maybe someone should ask him! The problem is the Deep State does their absolute best to hide this knowledge from the President/Congress. But black funding is weird, the taxpayers still pay it but their representatives (congress) don’t know where the money is going. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/75 "2019-02-08T19:59:46Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > I honestly don’t even like the term alien… I believe the correct phrase is “undocumented immigrant”. > [@](#): > > …because we all live in the same universe. Speak for yourself. Regards, Shodan, Strange Visitor from Another Planet, Who Came to Earth with Powers and Abilities Moderately Beyond Those of Mortal Men. Shodan, Who Can Change the Course of the Snow Melt That Runs Off My Driveway. Bend Tin in His Bare Hands. And Who, Disguised as a Mild-Mannered Poster, Fights A Never-ending Battle for Truth, Justice, and Thinner Thighs in Thirty Days ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/76 "2019-02-08T20:05:37Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Regards, > Shodan, Strange Visitor from Another Planet, Who Came to Earth with Powers and Abilities Moderately Beyond Those of Mortal Men. > Shodan, Who Can Change the Course of the Snow Melt That Runs Off My Driveway. > Bend Tin in His Bare Hands. > And Who, Disguised as a Mild-Mannered Poster, Fights A Never-ending Battle for Truth, Justice, and Thinner Thighs in Thirty Days I like the new end tag-please keep it. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/77 "2019-02-08T20:51:21Z")
Second. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/78 "2019-02-08T21:36:18Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > Have we been visited by extraterrestrials and the government/military-industrial complex is hiding this knowledge because they don’t want free energy technology/the cure for cancer getting out to the public. No. > [@Kamaski](#): > > didn’t Rumsfeld say they couldn’t account for $2.1 trillion in defense spending right before 9/11? No. > [@Kamaski](#): > > How can the United States Congress not account for 2.1 trillion dollars in spending? That’s almost comical. > > This is the “black budget” I suspect. > > Highly classified programs which may have been built in cooperation with other species/higher dimensional beings. How did you get from alleged government waste and incompetence to evidence of “higher dimensional beings”? I think you must have skipped a step. > [@Kamaski](#): > > Nikola Tesla had the key to free energy in his hands in 1943. No. And we already have free energy. That bright thing that appears in the sky every day, that ain’t an invading alien spacecraft. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/79 "2019-02-08T21:36:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So while us ignorant rubes thought it was evidence of incompetency and/or larceny, The Enlightened Ones Among Us knew it was evidence of a vast conspiracy involving aliens, oil barons and the like. > > :rolleyes: And the Pentagon was hit on 9/11 in an attempt to cover up the missing money. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/80 "2019-02-08T21:36:33Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > Wasn’t it the office of alien property who seized the documents? Dude, you’re the one who said it was the FBI under the direction of J. Edgar Hoover. Back in post #29, just 5 hours ago. If you can’t keep your own conspiracy theory straight, how am I supposed to? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178.md?page=5)