# Is the United States government hiding the existence of ET visitations? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 8, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178 "2019-02-08T15:09:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/101 "2019-02-09T18:55:24Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > šŸ˜• > > Why didnā€™t they just call if ā€œmaskā€?" It means the same thing, and it uses six fewer letters to spell, and three fewer syllables to say. Possibly because ā€œmaskirovkaā€ is a Russian word, but ā€œmaskā€ doesnā€™t have an appropriate meaning in Russian? ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/102 "2019-02-09T19:02:06Z")
I just popped in to say that Iā€™m surprised, and a little disappointed. Two pages in, and this thread still shows a severe lack of an SDMB basic resource: tin-foil hats. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/103 "2019-02-09T19:14:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > šŸ˜• > > Why didnā€™t they just call if ā€œmaskā€?" It means the same thing, and it uses six fewer letters to spell, and three fewer syllables to say. > [@Andy\_L](#): > > Possibly because ā€œmaskirovkaā€ is a Russian word, but ā€œmaskā€ doesnā€™t have an appropriate meaning in Russian? IOW, they made it different, just for the sake of being ā€œdifferent?ā€ Typical Russki arrogance. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/104 "2019-02-09T19:15:08Z")
The US government isnā€™t competent enough to hide the existence - or even location of - their own actual, illegal torture black sites. Theyā€™re not even competent enough to hide their chain of command. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/105 "2019-02-09T19:17:41Z")
BTW, OP: > [@Kamaski](#): > > Have we been visited by extraterrestrials and the government/military-industrial complex is hiding this knowledge because they donā€™t want free energy technology/the cure for cancer getting out to the public. THE cure (singular) for cancer? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/106 "2019-02-09T19:38:14Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > Itā€™s a fact of human physiology that when one focuses intensely on a subject or action over weeks and months, one will begin to dream about that subject or action. I, personally, once had a temp job stuffing envelopes under a moderately extreme quota. By the third week, I was doing the job in my sleep. Vividly. No one was surprised to hear about it and no one speculated that unearthly beings were causing the dreams. Maybe you were actually working for aliens. Your dreams were their way of training you. > [@](#): > > The only difference between my dreams and their dreams is that physicists and inventors tend to focus on unanswered questions, rather than moving pieces of paper. Exactly, you get better at moving paper, they get better at answering questions. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > BTW, OP: > THE cure (singular) for cancer? What, now thereā€™s more than one type of cancer? Thanks aliens. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/107 "2019-02-09T20:19:23Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > Yes, Tesla was a genius. > > I believe he got ā€œhintsā€ in his dreams on how to achieve free energy from higher dimensional beings/ETs. > > Just like how James Clerk Maxwell and Einstein talked about having vivid dreams where they took their inspiration from. > > I think the gift of electromagnetic theory was gifted to Maxwell in his dreams from a higher dimension/ETs. So my dream last night about drying my SIL after a shower couldā€™ve been about relativity instead? Iā€™d say, ā€œThanks, aliens :mad:,ā€ except from what I know about Einstein that is exactly the sort of dream heā€™d have. Thus ā€œrelativity.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/108 "2019-02-09T21:34:41Z")
Kamaski, do you have an opinion on [Time Cube](http://timecube.2enp.com/)? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/109 "2019-02-09T23:43:16Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > IOW, they made it different, just for the sake of being ā€œdifferent?ā€ Typical Russki arrogance. :dubious: I agree. Different languages having different words for the same thing is dumb. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/110 "2019-02-10T00:35:35Z")
What I wonder about, is why would a culture capable of interstellar travel bother sharing high tech with a buncha primitives several centuries behind? > [@Alessan](#): > > If aliens came in my Telsa, Iā€™d send it back too. Try explaining that one to the guys at the detailer shop. > [@Voyager](#): > > That is a problem. No engine noise to cover the moaning. And that is just fom the owners complaining. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/111 "2019-02-10T02:22:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Do you plan on responding to anything posted here? > [@Kamaski](#): > > Contact with inter-dimensional beings Thatā€™d be a ā€œnoā€, then. ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/112 "2019-02-10T11:46:12Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > there is plenty of video of craft flying through the air which defy the laws of physics online video. I suggest you try YouTube. > > I like the videos taken with the old style camcorders before were had smartphone video, but smartphone/digital video is a lot better quality. So youā€™re saying that thereā€™s a massive conspiracy, reaching across decades, through the highest levels of governmental, military, industrial and financial power, where thousands of people would have to collectively hide the greatest secret in human history and conceal society-shaking technologiesā€¦which would, by the way, generate untold profits for the first companies to release themā€¦and yet they allow the evidence to sit, publicly available, on YouTube? ---
**Author:** ![bizerta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@bizerta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizerta)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/113 "2019-02-10T12:20:42Z")
If ETs have been"here", why do they always land in the USA? Is Uganda in on the conspiracy as three have landed there, too? And how is the ā€œgovernmentā€ always the first on the scene so they can hide the evidence? If an ET lands at a farm in Iowa, is the farmer now part of the conspiracy or is he shot on the spot? Seriously, The OP is a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/114 "2019-02-10T13:50:38Z")
Bizerta, you canā€™t call others trolls in Great Debates. Such is very disruptive to discussion. Warning issued, please donā€™t do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/115 "2019-02-10T13:52:34Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > there is plenty of video of craft flying through the air which defy the laws of physics online video. I suggest you try YouTube. Thanks, but if I want to see a hubcap thrown into the air, I can do it myself. > [@](#): > > I like the videos taken with the old style camcorders before were had smartphone videoā€¦ You mean [like this](http://doorbell.net/tlr/ufo.htm)? ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/116 "2019-02-10T17:22:14Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > IOW, they made it different, just for the sake of being ā€œdifferent?ā€ Typical Russki arrogance. :dubious: I hear that in Japan, they call the tactic ā€œHensōā€. Arrogant fuckers! ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/117 "2019-02-10T19:24:20Z")
Either A: Aliens are coming to earth and acting like drunk teenagers or B: aliens arenā€™t coming to earth. B makes more sense to me. Earth: the vacation destination of drunk teenage aliens everywhere. Earth: Mostly paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/118 "2019-02-10T20:19:15Z")
> [@Kamaski](#): > > 99.9% of reality is non-linear PDEs, true? We only know how to solve a couple of these with computer methods. You mean [Nonlinear partial differential equations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_partial_differential_equation)? [This list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nonlinear_partial_differential_equations) is far more than a couple. So are you trying to say since we canā€™t explain everything in the universe yet, that leaves open the possibility that ETs exist? Thatā€™s not proof. We used to be unable to explain fire. That didnā€™t automatically mean that ETs existed. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/119 "2019-02-10T21:59:56Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Such is very disruptive to discussion. Holy Ned I think I just pissed myself šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178/120 "2019-02-10T23:59:36Z")
> [@GoodOmens](#): > > So youā€™re saying that thereā€™s a massive conspiracy, reaching across decades, through the highest levels of governmental, military, industrial and financial power, where thousands of people would have to collectively hide the greatest secret in human history and conceal society-shaking technologiesā€¦which would, by the way, generate untold profits for the first companies to release themā€¦and yet they allow the evidence to sit, publicly available, on YouTube? You know, if the ETs took some dick pix theyā€™d be all over the web in an instant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-united-states-government-hiding-the-existence-of-et-visitations/829178.md?page=7)