Is the US EV market dead?

Can you get some kind of dual horn option? One sound for “Excuse me sir or madam, I just wanted to make sure you were aware of my vehicle’s presence in your vicinity?”, and one for the standard “WATCH IT, YOU ASSHOLE, WHERE’D YOU LEARN TO DRIVE?!!?!” function?

I sometimes watch train webcams, usually to watch Amtrak arrivals. Sometimes, when a series of coal cars, which have open tops, go by, someone will say, “Hey, look! Fuel for electric vehicles.”

Political discussion isn’t allowed, so this is all they can say about it.

Briefly going back to the idea that EV’s are less environmentally sound than an Ice car. There is some truth to that in the short term. It takes more energy to make an EV so there’s a breakeven point. I’ve seen anything from 20,000 miles to 75,000 miles but never anything connected to vehicle or batter size. If it’s on the low side then they are certainly better than ICE over the life of the car.

I’m still not seeing the benefit of a pure EV. ** FOR ME**. I don’t drive enough miles daily to justify the expense of an EV. I also don’t like lithium batteries. They’re great for power tools but I’ve had a motorcycle battery and a charger battery go thermal and expand. Luckily they didn’t ignite and burn my garage down. I will no longer put a lithium battery in a motorcycle.

I will certainly get a hybrid when Lithium batteries are replaced with something better. I expect gas stations will naturally provide charging stations when there are more EV’s on the road. It will happen purely as a result of demand.

I don’t presume to know what is right for YOU but a low mileage commuter who only has that use case and does not need a new car or cutting edge tech might be well served by a very well priced used EV, even an older model Leaf.

Anyway, you have to look at new cars purchased per year to get a sense of adoption. People keep cars for a long time, and people who buy new cars frequently don’t throw away the old ones, they sell them to other people who will drive them.

I’ve seen a bunch of charts showing things like, “backup cameras were mandated in all new cars going forward. He’s a graph showing how much of the fleet had them in the past five years, and how much is the fleet (that is, all cars driven in the US) will have them over the next ten years. And here’s how many years it will take before 50% of cars have them”.

With 100% adoption, through a legal mandate, after years of an option being popular, it still typically takes years for 50% of the fleet to be equipped.

The half-life of cars is long. And the decay curve isn’t as simple as that of radioactivity.

my daily driver is 25 years old.

Huh, that seems young to take up a career as a chauffeur. Does he/she just work for you part-time on the commute or something?

…oh. :flushed_face::roll_eyes::smiling_face: