# Is the Volkswagen Thing an SUV? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 22, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127 "2006-01-22T18:13:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/1 "2006-01-22T18:13:18Z")
the VW Thing [http://www.indra.com/homepages/spike/thing/](http://www.indra.com/homepages/spike/thing/) was based on the Nazi Army’s Kubelwagen, the Germans’ answer to the Jeep. But the Thing only has 2 wheel drive, and my own personal definition of Sports-utility vehicle is a _truck_ with standard or at list optional four wheel drive of some kind. Dune Buggies, Audi Quattros, and most Subarus don’t fit the def. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/2 "2006-01-22T18:18:34Z")
I wouldn’t call it an SUV. Like you said, it’s more Jeep-like. _Most_ SUVs are truck-based. The Thing is based on the Beetle and uses a lot of the Beetle’s mechanicals. They’re cool. but hard to find in decent shape. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/3 "2006-01-22T18:19:30Z")
No, it’s not. Why should it be? ‘SUV’ is a fairly modern concept. A brief google shows that the VW Thing was an accident of history, due to a failure to get a full 4WD vehicle onto the market. Even if it had 4WD, it would be no closer to being an SUV than a WW2 jeep. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/4 "2006-01-22T18:28:34Z")
In the 80’s, VW offered the Vanagon with the Synchro 4WD system. Before the Touareg, that was probably as close to an SUV as VW got. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/5 "2006-01-22T19:05:46Z")
One might make the case that the Thing was a utility vehicle, which would be a reasonable description of a Jeep. But the sports aspect just ain’t there. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/6 "2006-01-22T19:11:07Z")
umm, did you ever see a yuppie driving to work in a VW Thing? it ain’t no SUV ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/7 "2006-01-22T19:35:46Z")
There is no clear cut definition of SUV, so it depends on how you want to define it. I use the light truck definition for SUV’s, but I don’t know if it would qualify for that. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2006, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/8 "2006-01-22T21:46:07Z")
Generally, SUVs have bodies similar to station wagons, with an enclosed pasenger cabin and cargo area, and with 4WD at least available as an option. Under those circumstances the VW Thing was not an SUV. ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-volkswagen-thing-an-suv/341127/9 "2006-01-23T06:38:56Z")
Indeed. The Subaru Outback is marketed as a Sport Utility Wagon…though its just a gussied-up Legacy wagon. The Quattro wagon is also just a station wagon. There are crossover vehicles which blur the line between wagon, SUV, and minivan, like the Chrysler Pacifica and the Ford Freelander, the wagon version of the Five Hundred. Perhaps the first crossover vehicle is the AMC Eagle wagon…basically, a Hornet station wagon with a lift kit and extra side moldings. The Jeep Cherokee had an optional 2WD, thus making it little more than a station wagon, but its still an SUV.