# Is the Wheel of Time series still going to end with book 12?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 28, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855 "2005-09-28T15:15:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/41 "2005-09-29T18:11:37Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> Ah, hadn’t thought of that to be honest. I see where you are going though and thats an interesting observation.

It ranks right up there with whether or not Min may be related to Jain Farstrider. Another far-fetched theory that’s near and dear to me. I can’t see how she _could_ be related, but there aren’t nearly enough Min theories, as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/42 "2005-09-29T18:16:02Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> In fact, ignore the symbols. Just think black-white-red. In my mind, that’s an evil color sceme.

What do you have against newspapers and sunburnt penguins, huh? :dubious:

I don’t see it myself, but then we’ve all got our theories. I won’t be sorry to see everything finally wrapped up, though.

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**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/43 "2005-09-29T18:54:41Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> In fact, ignore the symbols. Just think black-white-red. In my mind, that’s an evil color sceme.

Wow. My Uni’s colors are red, black, and white…and so are the colors of my SCA Principality (soon to be Kingdom…yay!)

That makes me double plus ungood.

😛

Just kidding. Seriously, I think your theory tells us more about you than about Jordan…I’ve never gotten a whiff of any sort of ‘ism’ from his works.

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/44 "2005-09-29T18:58:49Z")

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> [@Stonebow](#):
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> Wow. My Uni’s colors are red, black, and white…and so are the colors of my SCA Principality (soon to be Kingdom…yay!)

Yes, you’re evil. Eeeeevil.

Okay, no, I can’t keep up that pretense. The idea of you being evil makes me laugh too hard.

Although starting a Who Killed Asmo? thread might qualify you …

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/45 "2005-09-29T18:59:50Z")

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> [@Stonebow](#):
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> I’ve never gotten a whiff of any sort of ‘ism’ from his works.

Well, there’s a whiff of paidbythewordism, but that’s not an ideology so much as a lack of competent editing…

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/46 "2005-09-29T19:28:52Z")

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Your mockery is to no avail; your barbs slide from my skin like the autumn rain. It is no use! History will prove me right.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/47 "2005-09-29T20:00:11Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> You had to go and do that, didn’t you. You couldn’t just let a small, throwaway comment pass you by. No, you had to start talking trash. Do you WANT this thread to end up in the Pit? Do ya?

Pfft.

Let’s see, I just couldn’t “let a small, throwaway comment” where someone in Israel is calling someone a Nazi pass by?

I guess not.

So now you whip out the same arguments that got completlely slapped down before.

Thing is, you whip out your little accusation and then say, ‘Come on guys, just ignore my baseless cheap shot. It wasn’t much of a theory anyways’

But then you defend it anyways.

Seems to me that the smart thing to do is, you know, not accuse someone of being a Nazi unless you have a really good cause to.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![SlyFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@SlyFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlyFrog)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/48 "2005-09-29T20:28:45Z")

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Really? I’d always heard that the Romulans were the sneaky, clever, inscrutiable Asians, the Klingons were the brutish but strong African clansmen, and the Ferengis were the money loving, merchant Jews.

Oh wait, am I in the wrong thread?

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/49 "2005-09-30T17:33:20Z")

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Who knew the White Stripes were Nazis?

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/50 "2005-09-30T17:36:27Z")

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> [@Stonebow](#):
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> Just kidding. Seriously, I think your theory tells us more about you than about Jordan…I’ve never gotten a whiff of any sort of ‘ism’ from his works.

Sexism?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/51 "2005-09-30T22:54:02Z")

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Can anyone explain to me the correlation between the Whitecloaks and KKK?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/52 "2005-09-30T23:00:45Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Can anyone explain to me the correlation between the Whitecloaks and KKK?
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> -Joe

They both wear white! Can’t you SEE?

Sorry…actually, imo, the Whitecloaks are much more like a private Inquisition than the KKK. I don’t see too many Grand Dragons running around torturing black people and Jews to confess their sins and accept the cleansing fires of God.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/53 "2005-10-01T01:08:48Z")

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I’m plowing thru re-reading book 9 right now. Blood and bloody ashes, the beginning sucks. All 150 pages so far. I am so sick of Perrin and Faile right now. My ideal solution to the problem of Faile and Morgase et. al. is to just lop their heads off already.

Refresh my memory. Was there anything decent in book 9 besides the last chapter or two?

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**Author:** ![Gulo\_gulo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@Gulo\_gulo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gulo_gulo)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/54 "2005-10-03T20:36:21Z")

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> [@Stonebow](#):
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> Wow. My Uni’s colors are red, black, and white…and so are the colors of my SCA Principality (soon to be Kingdom…yay!)

Would that be Gleann Abhann?

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**Author:** ![Stonebow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-wheel-of-time-series-still-going-to-end-with-book-12/323855/55 "2005-10-03T21:10:43Z")

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> [@Gulo gulo](#):
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> Would that be Gleann Abhann?

Maybe…

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