# Is the worst of the Trump presidency over?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 7, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135 "2018-11-07T15:15:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/21 "2018-11-07T16:27:10Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> There are now checks in place but now Trump gets to say that the House is preventing him from doing more instead of the “Deep State.”
I see this as a good thing. Now he and everyone else can see he’s been checked by the will of the people as expressed in the most recent election, of people who have rejected him and his message. No more blaming it on some nebulous conspiracy.
Of course I expect we will see subtle and covert moves to de-legitimize this election. I’m surprised we haven’t seen it yet, to be honest.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/22 "2018-11-07T16:40:52Z")
> [@Merneith](#):
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> Donald has never in his life experienced checks & balances. He’s not going to take to it kindly. Plus, his re-election campaign starts today. I expect there will be plenty of ugly to go around for the next two years.
His re-election campaign started two years ago.
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/23 "2018-11-07T16:43:24Z")
The problem is, he controls the Senate, any by virtue of that, he can keep loading the federal courts with conservatives, and I don’t mean John Kasich conservatives, but rather ideologues and activists.
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### Author:  [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/24 "2018-11-07T16:48:20Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> His re-election campaign started two years ago.
Yes, he’s already raised over $100 million for his reelection bid. That’s far beyond what Bush or Obama did at the two-year point.
> **[Trump has raised over $100 million for his 2020 re-election bid](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-raised-100-million-2020-election-bid/story?id=58525539)**
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> The president is gearing up for 2020 already.
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### Author:  [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/25 "2018-11-07T16:51:30Z")
Not. Even. Close.
Now he knows he can get away with anything and no one will stop him. I fully expect him to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue very soon and then brag about it.
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### Author:  [@UnwittingAmericans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwittingAmericans)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/26 "2018-11-07T16:55:45Z")
No. He’s gotten worse every day and that will continue until the last day. If he’s running again, he has no choice.
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### Author:  [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/27 "2018-11-07T17:04:49Z")
> [@Quartz](#):
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> Don’t count your chickens just yet. Many votes were close and results might change once postal votes are tallied.
They are likely uncounted votes for democrats.
Nate Silver from 538 Tweeted:
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> Dems currently lead in the popular vote for the U.S. House by 5.4 percentage points. However, there are a LOT of uncounted votes and they’re likely to be disproportionately Democratic (e.g. from California). So we’ll probably wind up somewhere in the vicinity of 7.5, I’d guess.
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> SOURCE: [https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1060213060131000321](https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1060213060131000321)
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### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/28 "2018-11-07T17:06:47Z")
Yeah the worst is over. The facade of a partnership between Trump and the R establishment will need to end. They know the demographics are within 10 years of permanently screwing them up the ass if they can’t change the narrative quickly and totally,Trump and his army of wanna-be-Trumps do the Kochs no good in the future, and now they can’t do much now.
It’s a three way gridlock.
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### Author:  [@squidfood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squidfood)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/29 "2018-11-07T17:16:57Z")
I’m going to be a bit rosy and say good riddance to the Freedom Caucus at least (not completely dead of course, but hopefully on life support). Obviously Trump is still Trump, but at least the House doesn’t have to satisfy that pack of non-governing misfits. At least a couple times in the past two years, the potential of “Trump reaching out to Chuck & Nancy” was buggered up by this gang.
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### Author:  [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/30 "2018-11-07T17:19:36Z")
Gee, the party of the presidents had a difficult midterm cycle. Imagine that! Never happened before!
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/31 "2018-11-07T18:22:16Z")
> [@Quartz](#):
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> Don’t count your chickens just yet. Many votes were close and results might change once postal votes are tallied.
I am pretty sure the idea the Democrats DON’T control the House based on this election is in defiance of mathematics.
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/32 "2018-11-07T18:23:33Z")
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> One of the consequences that has now undoubtedly been explained to the toddler-in-chief is that Mueller is now protected and trying to fire him and end the investigation would have severe repercussions.
How is Mueller now protected?
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### Author:  [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/33 "2018-11-07T18:24:08Z")
The worst isn’t over because it was never about passing laws. In terms of laws passed by the House, it was a normal Republican administration, actually less productive than past Republican administrations due to no Presidential leadership.
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### Author:  [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/34 "2018-11-07T18:27:09Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#):
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> It would take an absolutely extraordinary set of circumstances for republicans to maintain control of the house at this point. I think they’d have to take every race that hasn’t been called plus several of the races called for democrats.
The BBC were saying that 24 (I think) seats were within a few per cent and the Democrat majority was at the time 24, so it would only take 13 of those seats to change to Republican
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> I’ll eat my day-worn underwear if that happens.
I won’t hold you to that. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/35 "2018-11-07T18:33:34Z")
> [@Merneith](#):
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> Donald has never in his life experienced checks & balances. He’s not going to take to it kindly. Plus, his re-election campaign starts today. I expect there will be plenty of ugly to go around for the next two years.
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> His re-election campaign started two years ago.
Yep - he declared his candidacy for 2020 on inauguration day (or maybe it was the next day). That’s what all of these “rallies” are everywhere he goes – they are campaign rallies for his re-election.
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### Author:  [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/36 "2018-11-07T18:37:28Z")
If Trump is still pursuing that trillion-dollar infrastructure plan, I think enough Democrats in the House might go along with it if it benefits their constituents. As for his new promised “another 10% tax cut for the middle class,” it might not work.
The defense budget should still pass overwhelmingly like usual. A lot of things will still pass the House by a wide margin.
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### Author:  [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/37 "2018-11-07T19:15:28Z")
I’m pretty sure the worst is still ahead.
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/38 "2018-11-07T19:34:21Z")
> [@Quartz](#):
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> Don’t count your chickens just yet. Many votes were close and results might change once postal votes are tallied.
This is comically incorrect.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/39 "2018-11-07T19:37:15Z")
> [@Velocity](#):
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> If Trump is still pursuing that trillion-dollar infrastructure plan, I think enough Democrats in the House might go along with it if it benefits their constituents. As for his new promised “another 10% tax cut for the middle class,” it might not work.
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> The defense budget should still pass overwhelmingly like usual. A lot of things will still pass the House by a wide margin.
In other words, now that the Democrats are involved the government will start working again. And the President will have to start doing useful work instead of spending all his time complaining.
I’m seeing this as a step forward.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-the-worst-of-the-trump-presidency-over/824135/40 "2018-11-07T19:44:12Z")
Remember, too, that a lot of the damage he’s done has not been through what he’s been doing, but through what he hasn’t been doing. A Democratic house might be able to stop him from doing some bad things, but they won’t be able to force him to do his job.
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