# Is there a carnivore with hooves? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 26, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968 "2007-08-26T04:37:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/21 "2007-08-26T20:28:56Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] Between this and the “Humans as Prey” thread, I’m beginning to welcome our new ungulate overloards. But then I remember my user name… While carnivore does not equal predator, I would expect hooves be a hinderance to predation. While in pursuit, a predator has to change direction in reaction to the fleeing prey. Hooves would not be my first choice of footwear for this. And while hooves can cause injury, claws have advantages of fine manipulation and the direction of a claw strike is inward, drawing the prey towards the predator. A hoof strike pushes away. [/QUOTE] As far as pursuit goes, prey animals do quite well evading the predator’s claws, escaping far more often than not. That explains why so many hunters will scavenge as often as possible. Our own ancestors should be called Scavenger/gatherers, I figure. That’s exactly what _we_ are. right? You’re right on, though, about the claws bringing down prey once the predator catches up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/22 "2007-08-26T22:52:32Z")
> [@](#): > > And when was the last time Satan ate anyone? I’m sure he outsources for that, hard to be suave and debonair when you’re munching a fellow. Nearly two thousand years ago, and he still hasn’t managed to swallow Judas yet. Remarkably, his other two known meals, Brutus and Cassius, were only a few decades before that one. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/23 "2007-08-26T23:17:30Z")
[QUOTE=Chronos] Nearly two thousand years ago, and he still hasn’t managed to swallow Judas yet. Remarkably, his other two known meals, Brutus and Cassius, were only a few decades before that one. [/QUOTE] I’m told that Hitler goes well with Pizza. [http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/3-0&fp=46d28f8c01fd03b0&ei=1gnSRsa8IZigavn21NQN&url=http%3A//www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0%2C1518%2C501792%2C00.html&cid=1119857714](http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/3-0&fp=46d28f8c01fd03b0&ei=1gnSRsa8IZigavn21NQN&url=http%3A//www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0%2C1518%2C501792%2C00.html&cid=1119857714) ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/24 "2007-08-26T23:36:03Z")
[QUOTE=cmyk] Satan? [/QUOTE] Tossup between him and my ex. ---
**Author:** ![maggenpye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@maggenpye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maggenpye)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/25 "2007-08-27T02:30:59Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor] I’m told that Hitler goes well with Pizza. [http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/3-0&fp=46d28f8c01fd03b0&ei=1gnSRsa8IZigavn21NQN&url=http%3A//www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0%2C1518%2C501792%2C00.html&cid=1119857714](http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/3-0&fp=46d28f8c01fd03b0&ei=1gnSRsa8IZigavn21NQN&url=http%3A//www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0%2C1518%2C501792%2C00.html&cid=1119857714) [/QUOTE] Just avert your eyes from the inflammatory billboards for a moment, see that hill? Frodo lived there. Around this corner over …there! Gandalf sat upon the peerless Shadowfax during the battle of… Good pizza though, \*damned \*good! As for the Jackalopes!? _So_ close to a woosh. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/26 "2007-08-27T14:57:13Z")
[QUOTE=cmyk] My gameroom is full of jackalope heads i’ve hunted and killed myself. [/QUOTE] You’re way ahead of me. Every time I take my friends jackalope hunting, all we ever see are does. ---
**Author:** ![Rocketeer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocketeer/32/4437_2.png) [@Rocketeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rocketeer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/27 "2007-08-27T15:06:23Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] …An antelope/hare cross is imposing in stature but they can’t eat so much as a field mice even if they wanted too although the buckteeth can cause nasty damage to a hand or crotch if attention is allowed to wonder even for a second. [/QUOTE] I think it’s the “or crotch” in this sentence that makes it so hilarious to me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/28 "2007-08-27T15:12:00Z")
[QUOTE=Max Torque] You’re way ahead of me. Every time I take my friends jackalope hunting, all we ever see are does. [/QUOTE] Niiiice. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/29 "2007-08-27T15:30:35Z")
[QUOTE=cmyk] Hey, if the jackrabbits can breed with antelope, why not humans? A Jackaman? Basically a rabbit with opposable thumbs. [/QUOTE] Those things get pretty big, and they’re dangerous as hell. Here’s a shot of a particularly huge Jackaman. [Huge Jackaman in natural habitat](http://superherouniverse.com/wallpaper/x-men/images-wallpaper/wolverine-x-men.jpg) Sailboat ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/30 "2007-08-27T17:12:31Z")
[QUOTE=Max Torque] You’re way ahead of me. Every time I take my friends jackalope hunting, all we ever see are does. [/QUOTE] Are those does in any danger, as are the ewes on a midwestern sheep ranch? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/31 "2007-08-27T17:34:52Z")
[QUOTE=Sailboat] Those things get pretty big, and they’re dangerous as hell. Here’s a shot of a particularly huge Jackaman. [/QUOTE] Looks more like a wolverine to me. ---
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/32 "2007-08-27T18:56:08Z")
I can’t believe no one has suggested Dick Cheney yet. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/33 "2007-08-27T19:38:45Z")
I remembered seeing these guys at the Los Angeles Zoo who supposedly can eat meat sometimes. No cite from the zoo, but here’s wikipedia: > **[Common duiker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Duiker)** > > Capra grimmia Linnaeus, 1758 > Moschus grimmia Linnaeus, 1766 The common duiker (Sylvicapra grimmia), also known as the gray duiker or bush duiker, is a small antelope and the only member of the genus Sylvicapra. This species is found everywhere in Africa south of the Sahara, excluding the Horn of Africa and the rainforests of the central and western parts of the continent. Generally, they are found in habitats with sufficient vegetation cover to allow them to hide—savannah and hilly areas, includ... > [@](#): > > The Common Duiker, Sylvicapra grimmia, also known as the Gray or Bush Duiker, is a small antelope with small horns found in west, central, east, and southern Africa … The common duiker has a wide diet; beyond herbivorous browsing for leaves, flowers, fruits and tubers, they will also eat insects, frogs, small birds and mammals and even carrion. ---
**Author:** ![Iggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Iggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggins)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/34 "2007-08-27T20:06:32Z")
It all depends on how they’re fed: [The Man Eating Cow](http://www.newenglandcomics.com/cgi-bin/shop/search.cgi?user_id=&database=tick.csv&template=details.htm&0_option=1&0=NSP02350) ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/35 "2007-08-27T20:08:17Z")
[QUOTE=Sailboat] Those things get pretty big, and they’re dangerous as hell. Here’s a shot of a particularly huge Jackaman. [Huge Jackaman in natural habitat](http://superherouniverse.com/wallpaper/x-men/images-wallpaper/wolverine-x-men.jpg) Sailboat [/QUOTE] Niiiice. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/36 "2007-08-27T20:10:36Z")
[QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried] I remembered seeing these guys at the Los Angeles Zoo who supposedly can eat meat sometimes. No cite from the zoo, but here’s wikipedia: > **[Common duiker](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Duiker)** > > Capra grimmia Linnaeus, 1758 > Moschus grimmia Linnaeus, 1766 The common duiker (Sylvicapra grimmia), also known as the gray duiker or bush duiker, is a small antelope and the only member of the genus Sylvicapra. This species is found everywhere in Africa south of the Sahara, excluding the Horn of Africa and the rainforests of the central and western parts of the continent. Generally, they are found in habitats with sufficient vegetation cover to allow them to hide—savannah and hilly areas, includ... [/QUOTE] YES! That was it. You get 500 points! Danke! ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9adbd/32.png) [@Mike\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Fun)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/37 "2007-08-27T20:48:46Z")
> [@](#): > > As most anti-vegetatians will jump at the chance to tell you, all grazers relish the bugs and such in the plant matter they eat. I’ve never heard of this before and quite frankly, I’m impressed. What kind of relish do they use, pickle? I’m personally partial to Vidalia relish. Do they make and can their own, or acquire it elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/38 "2007-08-27T21:06:19Z")
[QUOTE=Mike Fun] I’ve never heard of this before and quite frankly, I’m impressed. What kind of relish do they use, pickle? I’m personally partial to Vidalia relish. Do they make and can their own, or acquire it elsewhere? [/QUOTE] Ha ha. Have you ever heard of the verb form of “relish”? You almost get a :rolleyes: , But I know you’re being a mr. smarty-pants. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/39 "2007-08-27T21:44:46Z")
[QUOTE=maggenpye] Just avert your eyes from the inflammatory billboards for a moment, see that hill? Frodo lived there. Around this corner over …there! Gandalf sat upon the peerless Shadowfax during the battle of… Good pizza though, \*damned \*good! As for the Jackalopes!? _So_ close to a woosh. [/QUOTE] MMMMM…Pizza, with Hobbit sausage! Them’s good eatin’! ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a9adbd/32.png) [@Mike\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Fun)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968/40 "2007-08-28T18:09:05Z")
My silly joke is stolen from the Cecil article “Are humans meat eaters or vegetarians by nature?” which is linked to here: [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3\_087.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_087.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-carnivore-with-hooves/416968.md?page=1)