# is there a conservative version of SDMB?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 21, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875 "2010-04-21T16:49:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/21 "2010-04-21T21:29:51Z")

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To the rest: The OP is looking for a conservative board along the lines of the SDMB. Please stay on topic.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/22 "2010-04-21T21:56:59Z")

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Here’s [one](http://cdp-debate.forumandco.com/). The Conservative Debate Pub: _A place for conservatives to debate the issues. Respectful liberals and others are welcome._. To bad the last post was Jun 2008.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/23 "2010-04-21T22:04:06Z")

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> [@Cardinal](#):
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> It really amazes me that some people will still make “jokes” that conservative and intellectual are mutual exclusives, etc.  
> Oh, before you come back and say that you weren’t joking

I wasn’t joking.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/24 "2010-04-21T22:07:02Z")

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> [@Wilbo523](#):
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> Here’s [one](http://cdp-debate.forumandco.com/). The Conservative Debate Pub: _A place for conservatives to debate the issues. Respectful liberals and others are welcome._. To bad the last post was Jun 2008.

I guess one might speculate that the reason this place died, is because respectful and liberal are mutual exclusives as well. 😉

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/25 "2010-04-21T22:13:44Z")

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You might find some luck at the Dan Carlin forums. Though they’re more libertarian-ish, from what I’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/26 "2010-04-21T23:32:18Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I wasn’t joking.

[Moderator Note]And _I_ told y’all to stay on topic. If you want to play “My wing is better than your wing!” fly over to the appropriate forum. Again, this thread is for helping the OP find a conservative version of the SDMB.[/Moderator Note]

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**Author:** ![kevlaw](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kevlaw/32/2281_2.png) [@kevlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevlaw)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/27 "2010-04-22T00:03:30Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Great Debates is pretty liberal here, but we tolerate and sometimes even respect our conservative posters. There’s plenty of sniping and ganging up, but it rarely melts down into a vulgar brawl. Is there any message board out there like this on the conservative side? I’m getting tired of opening a GD thread and having something to say, but finding ten people have said it already. I’d like to see the arguments from the other side, but somewhere like the SDMB, where the moderators are involved and strong enough to keep most of the nasty stuff where it belongs. Does anyone here know of such a place?

Not quite what you are looking for but I have come across lively-but-respectful, worthy debate in the comments section of several of the conservative and/or libertarian blogs that I read.

Will Wilkinson’s blog (libertarian) comes immediately to mind, but also The American Scene (conservative), Eunomia (paleo-con) and Secular Right (conservative, atheist).

Of course, the debates are limited to what the blogger blogs but they are often very good debates.

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**Author:** ![sunstone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunstone/32/3372_2.png) [@sunstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunstone)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/28 "2010-04-22T02:00:01Z")

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Quoted from above…  
“I too would put the SDMB comfortably in the liberal category, but I would attribute it to the demographic that posts on forums. Younger people, college students, philosophers…  
As a right of center independent I find it hard to find a lunch table to sit at here.”

Darn it! I’ve been a member of the wrong forum for all these year, and I didn’t even know it. I’m very close to 67 yrs old, and campaigned for Barry Goldwater in my twenties as a college student. Now I am a Democrat more or less by default, as the Pubs have been taken over by a type of conservative that I don’t recognize or like.

Of course, apparently I’ve been doing this all wrong…getting much more liberal as I age. Some folks say that I should have done the opposite - being liberal as a youth with no world experience and full of irrational dreams of utopia, and becoming more conservative as I age and become more wise and worldly.

Or maybe I’ve just become more understanding of the complexities of human society, and not just focused on myself and thinking everyone else should be as “great” at ordering their lives as I though I was. Sorry for the mini-rant…I’ll jump off the soapbox now.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/29 "2010-04-22T02:39:25Z")

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This is that place. Conservatives here are less numerous but more intelligent, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/30 "2010-04-22T02:47:33Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> You mean a place where people can debate with each other, assuming they already agree with each other?

> [@dre2xl](#):
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> A message board filled with “your people” that you can sit down and have chatty posts without feeling like you have 3 eyes in your forehead?

Why don’t you people _read_ what he’s saying?

> [@Mosier](#):
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> I’m getting tired of opening a GD thread and having something to say, but finding ten people have said it already. **I’d like to see the arguments from the other side** , but somewhere like the SDMB, where the moderators are involved and strong enough to keep most of the nasty stuff where it belongs.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/31 "2010-04-22T03:03:45Z")

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**Mosier** , you might try [cellar.org](http://cellar.org). I don’t think they are a conservative bunch per se, but it seems like maybe they have more of them than the SDMB does. There are some interesting threads in the Politics section.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/32 "2010-04-22T03:33:53Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> I’ve always had the impression that the SDMB’s demographic skews higher in age than most other forums I’ve been on. Just a spidey-sense thing, but I’m regularly pleasantly surprised to come across posters talking about coming up to retirement, or having seen The Beatles live or some such.
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> The photo threads also demonstrate this a bit.

We had a poll on Dopers’ age soon after polls were enabled, but you can’t search for “how” “old” “are” “you?” here, so I couldn’t find it.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/33 "2010-04-22T03:42:52Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> We had a poll on Dopers’ age soon after polls were enabled, but you can’t search for “how” “old” “are” “you?” here, so I couldn’t find it.

[Old folks: stand and be counted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=555195).

[How old are you?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554352)

[What dopers were born in the same year?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=458574)

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/34 "2010-04-22T04:10:20Z")

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> [@NinetyWt](#):
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> **Mosier** , you might try [cellar.org](http://cellar.org). I don’t think they are a conservative bunch per se, but it seems like maybe they have more of them than the SDMB does. There are some interesting threads in the Politics section.

Thanks for that link. The brief lurking I did there looks promising!

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/35 "2010-04-22T07:17:41Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> Why don’t you people _read_ what he’s saying?

Why don’t you take note that I apologised long before you admonished me?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/36 "2010-04-22T07:33:10Z")

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I actually think the older age here might have more to do with us leaning liberal: For the generation before mine, there was a much larger barrier to learning to use computers. Only those people who tend to embrace new ideas would probably make it. And it makes sense that liberal in that are might spread to other areas in life.

Most of the conservatives I actually know on message boards are actually my generation or younger. Confirmation bias? I dunno. But it’s at least an interesting idea.

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**Author:** ![Amblydoper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Amblydoper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amblydoper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/37 "2010-04-22T08:03:57Z")

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Perhaps the liberals here are more likely to voice their opinion due to their liberalness, and the conservatives are more likely to observe or lurk and not post based on their conservativeness. Maybe we need a straight up poll: “Conservative or Liberal?”

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/38 "2010-04-22T08:33:05Z")

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> [@Amblydoper](#):
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> Maybe we need a straight up poll: “Conservative or Liberal?”

The political compass might be more useful - there were some polls/debates on this a while back, but maybe it needs revisiting.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/39 "2010-04-22T14:07:10Z")

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> [@Amblydoper](#):
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> Perhaps the liberals here are more likely to voice their opinion due to their liberalness, and the conservatives are more likely to observe or lurk and not post based on their conservativeness.

Based on comments that people have made in some threads, I think that’s true.

Heck, even in this non-GD thread, you have one person saying that the terms “conservative” and “intellectual” are mutually exclusive. You also have one person sniping at this topic by saying, “A message board filled with ‘your people’ that you can sit down and have chatty posts without feeling like you have 3 eyes in your forehead?” (an extremely unfair characterization, since the thread is specifically about looking for more balanced discussion). I wish I could say that these were isolated incidents, but I’ve been here long enough to know that they aren’t.

I’m no surprised that many conservatives choose to shy away from these discussions, given the general tenor of these responses.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-conservative-version-of-sdmb/536875/40 "2010-04-22T14:20:05Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Thanks for that link. The brief lurking I did there looks promising!

You’re very welcome. There are a lot of things I like about that board. The Image of the Day is one of them. Hope you stick around there. 🙂

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