# Is there a female market for male hookers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 5, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344 "2012-07-05T19:32:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/1 "2012-07-05T19:32:33Z")
Every so often you’ll see a young guy proclaim he wants to be a hooker servicing only females though, and the idea is loudly laughed at. With everyone agreeing such a market is so small with so many suppliers no profit will be had, and he will have to serve both sexes if he hopes to profit at all. Same thing for porn, it is often said the market for men for hetero sex in porn is so oversaturated in potential actors that doing gay porn is the only way to make money. Is there a female market for male hookers, NOT male strippers? Of the escort service variety where a woman could call up and order a guy to her preferences? I’ve seen ads posted on craigslist in the past, but it was hard to tell if they were serious or just jokes/hook up attempts rather than actual prostitution. They were no where near as professional as similar ads for female prostitutes. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/2 "2012-07-05T19:36:22Z")
My understanding is that, yes, it’s a much smaller market, you have to willing to service some truly unfortunate looking women, and you have to get them off, not just yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/3 "2012-07-05T20:12:22Z")
There was a dude who was purportedly [Nevada’s first legal male prostitute](http://www.details.com/sex-relationships/sex-and-other-releases/201001/americas-first-legal-male-prostitute). I’m pretty sure he got dropped without ever having a client. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/4 "2012-07-05T20:17:59Z")
No, he had a couple. But a tasteless interview where he compared himself to Rosa Parks and an undercover reporter who found him to be lackluster in the bedroom took some of the shine off his star so he went back to doing movies. [Article.](http://www.lvrj.com/news/first--prostidude--leaves-shady-lady-ranch-89211477.html) ---
**Author:** ![supergirl123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/db5fbb/32.png) [@supergirl123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergirl123)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/5 "2012-07-05T20:39:36Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > My understanding is that, yes, it’s a much smaller market, you have to willing to service some truly unfortunate looking women, and you have to get them off, not just yourself. Isn’t that part of the ‘profession’? - servicing some rather unfortunate looking people?. Women hookers would have to all the time! ---
**Author:** ![LionelHutz405](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lionelhutz405/32/536_2.png) [@LionelHutz405](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LionelHutz405)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/6 "2012-07-05T20:44:40Z")
Yes, but the service offered is different. [http://i.minus.com/i5dGmjOir1lGA.jpg](http://i.minus.com/i5dGmjOir1lGA.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![supergirl123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/db5fbb/32.png) [@supergirl123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergirl123)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/7 "2012-07-05T20:55:46Z")
> [@LionelHutz405](#): > > Yes, but the service offered is different. > [http://i.minus.com/i5dGmjOir1lGA.jpg](http://i.minus.com/i5dGmjOir1lGA.jpg) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/8 "2012-07-05T21:22:13Z")
I assumed that the existence of male hookers (“escorts”) for women was common knowledge 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Rhaegar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/51bf81/32.png) [@Rhaegar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhaegar)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/9 "2012-07-05T21:36:02Z")
I would have thought that there is a pretty fair sized demand for gigolo services. I can well imagine a scenario where a wealthy man, dumps his aging wife, and said aging wife then uses her ex-husband’s money to indulge in obtaining a male escort. Plus, men die younger than women usually, there should be a whole host of women who are bereft of husbands and not likely to be able to get a replacement husband. As said before, being able to “perform” with an unattractive partner is not the easiest thing in the world for guys, Viagra notwithstanding, so someone who can actually do the deed would seem to me to be in high demand. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/10 "2012-07-05T21:41:37Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > I assumed that the existence of male hookers (“escorts”) for women was common knowledge 😕 Why would a guy being the first legal male hooker be worthy of a newstory in that case? And apparently he quit pretty soon. > [@](#): > > Though the Nye County bordello 150 miles northwest of Las Vegas has temporarily stopped servicing women, owner Bobbi Davis said she isn’t ready to give up on her groundbreaking foray into legal male prostitution. > > “We’re just taking a little break,” she said. > > Markus, the Shady Lady’s first stud for hire, called it quits a few weeks ago after drawing fewer than 10 customers. Since then, the workload has been shouldered by a Las Vegas man in his mid-30s who – Davis swears she’s not making this up – performs under the name “Y. Not.” > > Davis said the new guy saw about 10 customers of his own before an electrical problem in the bungalow he was using forced the brothel to suspend the service earlier this week. > > Davis hopes to put Y. Not back to work in May or June, just as soon as the wiring is fixed. > [@](#): > > He was on the job for 10 days before he attracted his first customer, and he only entertained six or seven women after that, Davis said. > > One of those customers turned out to be an undercover reporter from the New York Post, who took pictures of Markus and wrote an unflattering, first-person account of her two hours with him. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/11 "2012-07-06T01:42:36Z")
This happened about 20 years ago and I don’t remember all the details. When I lived in California (SF / San Jose area), some guy started up a male escort service for female customers. He was running ads to attract customers, and it was obvious that there was sex for sale. The newspaper got hold of the story, but by that time, the business had gone under. In an interview, the entrepeneur said that the only phone calls he got were from guys looking for a job. In my opinion, if a woman, however hideous, wants sex badly enough to sleep with a stranger, it’s not that hard to find a volunteer. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/12 "2012-07-06T01:52:04Z")
There have been lots of stories about West Africa being a Thailand for female sex tourists. A little googling can bring those up. But here in Thailand too, there are certain bars that will supply men to a female clientele. I personally know of one bar that is open late and caters to female hookers. This is where they go at the end of the day (or night) for a bit of jollies themselves and let off some steam. There’s a good story about ladies’ toy-boy bars in Bangkok [here](http://pattayatoday.net/news/thailand-news/bangkoks-lady-toy-bars-revealed/). ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/13 "2012-07-06T01:56:27Z")
Wait, you mean **American Gigolo** and **Loverboy** weren’t accurate representations of the lives of male prostitutes? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/14 "2012-07-06T03:21:02Z")
So, if a female walks into a legal Nevada brothel, the ladies there won’t, umm, accept her tender offer? ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/15 "2012-07-06T03:36:20Z")
Dan Savage recently answered a quite similar question ([link](http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=13805553)). Savage discusses a number of different options and cites some experts (!) but all in all the answer is that if you’re a man and you want to make a living making sweet love to women, it’s going to be tough. I guess that episode where Kyle’s Dad sues Chef and he (Chef, not Kyle’s dad) whores himself out to all the women in Southpark to get together money so he can hire Johnny Cochrane and get him to use the Chewbacca defence, is not very accurate. ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/16 "2012-07-06T03:38:00Z")
Heidi Fleiss was scheming to open a “stud farm” in Nevada back in the mid-2000’s and was supposedly in talks to hire Mike Tyson (a notoriously good listener). For some reason it didn’t pan out. I had thought one of the stumbling blocks to male prostitution in Nevada is that the laws specify regular cervical exams, which are difficult to perform on men. That “first legal male prostitute” article doesn’t mention how that was handled-- it says he was going to get registered with the state “tomorrow” and I suspect given his short career that perhaps he never actually became technically legal. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/17 "2012-07-06T03:58:28Z")
> [@laina\_f](#): > > In my opinion, if a woman, however hideous, wants sex badly enough to sleep with a stranger, it’s not that hard to find a volunteer. Yes, but there’s a difference between hiring someone for specific services and finding a volunteer. If you’re a paying customer, you have the right to negotiate the exact services you need . . . something that’s not so easy on a casual date, especially if you are past your prime/undesirable/suffering from low self-esteem or self-image. If you fall into any of these categories, your pool of “volunteers” is probably just as undesirable as you are. And yes, I thought male escorts were common knowledge. There’s a difference between “first legal” and “first.” ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/18 "2012-07-06T04:34:51Z")
It’s fairly common in West Africa and parts of the Caribbean, with the primary clientele being well-off middle aged career women looking to add a little local color to their vacation, and sometimes younger backpacker types looking for a good story. When I’ve heard of it being done, it’s been as a “boyfriend experience” with a thin layer of plausible deniability. Basically the woman is on the beach or at the bar, and an attractive, well-muscled guy in his early 20s, often in “rasta” garb, strikes up a friendly conversation. Since the income differences are pretty stark, she starts buying him drinks to keep him around and the conversation flowing. Eventually she may start moving it towards romance, and he reciprocates. I have no idea how payment works, but presumably she gives him a “gift,” perhaps with some half-believable story behind it (“Here is the money you said you needed for your mom’s surgery!”) I’ve been offered sexual services as a sort of “value-added” service on a tour in West Africa. It was offered to me quite cooly and straightforwardly as an option, presumably for a larger tip. I politely declined, and it never came up again. Quite bizarre. I’ve seen photo menus of males in the changing rooms for Chinese spa/massage houses. My Chinese isn’t great, but the situation was pretty obvious. There is a great documentary on YouTube, whose name escapes me, about male “entertainers” in Japan. They provide various entertainment services in bars (telling jokes, singing, pouring drinks and generally giving attention) and sex is often involved. Their primary clientele are female sex workers. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/19 "2012-07-06T05:55:16Z")
OK. I spent some amount of time on the (French) web to figure out the situation. Here are my findings : -Reports, testimonies, articles about women’s sex tourism (Africa and Caraibeans) are numerous. This seems to be relatively common. However there’s a distinct lack of women asking, commenting or advising on sex tourism on message boards and such. -There are some rare testimonies/posts about gigolos in the sense of living-in boyfriends for wealthy women. All about negative experiences. -There are women seeking/asking about male escorts. Not that common, but not absurdly rare, either. Even though I didn’t read all the threads in detail, only once did I saw a response to such a query by someone stating she had been with an escort. -There are men posting to offer their services as male escorts on women-oriented boards. The age range is 20-50. I can’t tell on the basis of such posts if those are wannabes or real experienced escorts. -I found 5 sites of male escorts for women. All were individual sites. For some reason, 3 of them were based in Brussels. All were well done sites, quite similar to those of female escorts or male escort for men and appeared completely legitimate. All but one mentioned that they didn’t accept male customers. The one who did accepted only women and couples. There were some notable differences with typical female or gay male escort sites : -Those men were older (30-45) -Even though they mentioned their appearance/shape and provided pictures, they didn’t devote much space to that. Pictures were mostly of the man dressed and when he wasn’t (or wasn’t much) the pictures were quite tame. None mentioned the size of their penis or anything like that. Nor did they go into details about the kind of “sexual services” they offered (like : “I do this but don’t do that”), the only exception being the guy who accepted couples about what he would do re the man. -Most of the space was devoted to the “relational” aspect of the encounter. Their attitude towards women, why they did that, how caring they were, how much they loved women, their great personnality, etc… -There was generally more informations about practicalities (contact, where the meeting could take place, how the escort would organize it, etc…). The handling of the financial aspect of the deal was typically only briefly and tactefully mentioned. Anecdotically, I found an article interviewing a male escort who happened to be one I had previously checked the site of. The article mentioned their extreme rarity. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344/20 "2012-07-06T06:02:25Z")
And thinking about another current thread : none of them looked like a male stripper (I mean none was very muscular). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-female-market-for-male-hookers/627344.md?page=2)