# Is there a free speech right to sell tarot card readings?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 25, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912 "2003-07-25T16:41:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912/61 "2003-07-29T15:26:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by drachillix \*  
> \*\*Welcome to GD, cite please.
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> From my link
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> Also from the link, the challenge was accepted on an episode of larry king live broadcast on Sept 3, 2001 with hundreds of thousands of nationwide witnesses. \*\*

Yes, I saw that episode, Randi said something like why don’t you try for the million, and she said, sure, if you would allow it to be public, Randi said it is public. and nothing was set in stone. Randi is the trickester, spent a lot of his life fooling people. I don’t think anyone at that show thought the exchange was serious, and i dont think it was either.

About the audience laughing at Randi, he said you could take the same reading and give it to ten different people with the same result, everyone laughed.

On the Opra show he set in the front of the audience and make remarks about the psychics, the audience booed him so much that Opra had to tell them to stop.

If Randi is your skeptical hero, I feel sorry for you.

Love

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**Author:** ![lekatt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lekatt/32/7269_2.png) [@lekatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lekatt)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912/62 "2003-07-29T15:34:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by photopat \*  
> \*\ ***Drachillix** , the link you’ve provided and the quotes from it are certainly sufficient to show that Browne accepted and that Randi agreed to have independent corroboration of her claims.
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> Unfortunately, what **lekatt** wants is _proof_ that **Browne accepted** and that Randi agreed to have **independent corroboration** of her claims.
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> What’s the difference? Obviously there isn’t one, except to **lekatt**. In his mind, until he _says_ it’s proof, it isn’t, and if it goes against what he believes to be true, he won’t say it’s proof.
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> He’s funny that way.\*
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> _Nominated for Understatement of the Year Award._ \*\*

I guess you don’t know that psychics have been asking for independent person for years and Randi has never agreed.

This independent person would be a researcher unknown to both parties. A psychic from England called Randi out on the subject and he refused time after time.

[http://skeptics.victorzammit.com/](http://skeptics.victorzammit.com/)

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**Author:** ![blanx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@blanx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blanx)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912/63 "2003-07-29T17:32:41Z")

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People- don’t bother with lekatt. He’s not worth the oxygen, or the phlogiston.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912/64 "2003-07-29T17:41:19Z")

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> _Originally posted by photopat \*  
> [**lekatt**]'s funny that way._

You’re not referring to a “funny = ha-ha” sort of funny, are you? 😉

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2003, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912/65 "2003-07-29T18:23:58Z")

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**rjung** , no, although he often is “ha ha” funny, albeit utterly unintentionally. Like when he cites Zammit (dammit!) as a reputable source for information. That always makes me laugh. It’s sort of like citing Mother Goose for parenting techniques or physics.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-free-speech-right-to-sell-tarot-card-readings/190912/66 "2003-07-30T01:12:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lekatt \*  
> Yes, I saw that episode

So you lied about knowing that she had accepted the challenge, the details of the challenge, and that he offered independent oversight

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> If Randi is your skeptical hero, I feel sorry for you.

My heroes don’t put “for entertainment purposes only” under their words, they dont need to.

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