# Is there a full-automatic burst shotgun?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 28, 2014, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805 "2014-11-28T03:57:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Artemis\_Tardis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@Artemis\_Tardis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Artemis_Tardis)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/1 "2014-11-28T03:57:41Z")

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Shotguns are nice because they make big holes on their targets. Burst rifles are also nice because they make a lot of holes really fast with only one trigger pull. WHAT IF We add those two destructive features together to get a burst-action shot gun? Could that actually work and be efficient, making a lot of big holes really fast?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/2 "2014-11-28T04:02:28Z")

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[Atchisson Assault Shotgun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atchisson_Assault_Shotgun)

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**Author:** ![Boogly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Boogly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boogly)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/3 "2014-11-28T04:43:35Z")

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Not a production model but still impressive; belt fed auto-shotgun.  
It is not mine and I call it BASH. Belt-fed Auto Shotgun; Homebuilt

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7vwivR6cE)

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/4 "2014-11-28T05:01:23Z")

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> **[Automatic shotgun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_shotgun)**
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> An automatic shotgun is an automatic firearm that fires shotgun shells (thereby making it a shotgun) and uses some of the energy of each shot to automatically cycle the action and load a new round. It will fire repeatedly until the trigger is released or ammunition runs out. Automatic shotguns have a very limited range, but provide tremendous firepower at close range.
> Automatic shotguns generally employ mechanisms very similar to other kinds of automatic weapons. There are several methods of ope...

several models listed

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/5 "2014-11-28T06:07:10Z")

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They’d probably pound the hell out of your shoulder.

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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/6 "2014-11-28T06:15:01Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WOoUVeyaY_8/hqdefault.jpg "AA-12 Fully Automatic Shotgun!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8)

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/7 "2014-11-28T12:19:31Z")

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> **[Heckler & Koch HK CAWS](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_HK_CAWS)**
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> The Heckler & Koch HK CAWS (Close Assault Weapon System) is a prototype automatic shotgun—designed as a combat shotgun—co-produced by Heckler & Koch and Winchester/Olin during the 1980s. It was Heckler & Koch's entry into the U.S military's Close Assault Weapon System program.
> It is a 10-round, 12-gauge, bullpup shotgun with two firing modes: semi-auto and full-auto. The gun is fully ambidextrous.
> The development of the HK CAWS started in response to the JSSAP requirement for Repeating Hand-hel...

Recoil and insufficient range outweigh perceived benefits of target saturation.

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**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-full-automatic-burst-shotgun/705805/8 "2014-11-28T14:39:28Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> They’d probably pound the hell out of your shoulder.

The AA-12 uses a gas system and recoil spring to lower the recoil to 11% of what you would feel with a typical 12 Guage shot.
