# Is there a God??/??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 13, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-god/229099 "2004-02-13T20:48:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![jkim78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@jkim78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkim78)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-god/229099/121 "2004-02-19T04:20:09Z")
> [@Somnambulist](#): > > Indulge me by dropping any consideration of religious laws and practices for a moment. Consider what the absolute, incontrovertible proven existence of a god would mean… But this is my point exactly. You CANT separate the two for the simple fact that they are how the religious politicians fake the existance of a god. Without those religious laws, there’s no ‘punishment’ and hence no ‘proof’ of god’s existance. So you can’t drop religious laws and at the same time consider a god to be there - unless… you actually believe in it, and then I dont know what your thinking. > [@Somnambulist](#): > > How would that proven existence not change our complete understanding of the physical universe and the laws that govern it? How would it not challenge our understanding of the principle of cause and effect that underpins basic logic? Imagine the text book rewrites … E=mc^2 (except when Thor gets really mad, then E=mc^3). > > Seriously, if not ‘entire’… can I get away with ‘pretty-bloody-drastic’ ? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![IWLN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5ac83/32.png) [@IWLN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IWLN)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2004, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-god/229099/123 "2004-02-19T09:07:37Z")
> [@Dyke Van Dick](#): > > I would have to disagree. While there are certainly atheists who believe that there’s a purpose to life that doesn’t involve a deity, there just as many who believe that life is completely meaningless. **Why** do you believe your statement is true? I guess I don’t see what being an atheist or a theist has to do with having some sort of purpose in life. If anything, being a atheist would make you value this life more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-god/229099.md?page=6)